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Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM
There is a reason that some of those weaves were lost. It was discussed a lot on wotmania and here.

Traveling: The most logic reason was that for so many years during the Breaking, the landscape changed so much and so often that it eventually became very risky and dangerous to travel. Same applies for Skimming. If you think you know a place and open a Gateway, you might end up in the ocean or on a volcano instead of the place you thought it would be. Why was the weave forgotten? Eventually, most Aes Sedai, the more stronger and knowledgeable died, and with lack of a central organization resulted in fragmentation of the information. People were more and more isolated and didn't share the information.

Cuendillar: I guess the need for it became unimportant and eventually it just became less and less utilized so people forgot it existed. The perpetual decrease of strong Channelers and maybe a loss of Talent in Earth resulted in Cuendillar being lost.

Balefire: Was forgotten by most but still known. I mean, Moirane figured it out and used it on 2-3 occasions. If Moirane who is a good Channeler but not the greatest could figure it out, maybe from a book or from someone, it must not be that difficult for top people like Egwene, Nynaeve or others.

Angreal: Maybe they need some special tools, Ter'Angreal that needs to be utilized to create them. This is one of the lost Talents I understand more why it was lost.

There was also a reason for RJ to have those lost. Imagine plot wise what it would of been if everybody had access to Travel and all those weaves. In a series where lack of communication is one of the main aspect, it would of changed the feeling of the series too much. It would also depreciate the main protagonists accomplishments.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 2032 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1317 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1198 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1329 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 641 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1306 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1093 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1248 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1588 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1073 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 984 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1065 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 990 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1137 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 1043 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 1015 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1064 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1217 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 1023 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 477 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1160 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 940 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 1060 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1139 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1127 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1158 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 512 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 1021 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 511 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1069 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1091 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 560 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 1048 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1381 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 1017 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 487 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1288 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1166 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1434 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1106 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 1044 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 1028 Views

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