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Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM
To Travel, you need to know your point of departure in any case, not your destination.

Does it really change something? You open the Gateway and the location is not the same. You still end up somewhere that is not where you wanted to go. Ocean instead of a city, mountain instead of a forest. In the end, Traveling became unusable because of the changes in the landscape.

Your point about other planets is also, in my opinion flawed. Whose to say they used Traveling to go there and not some other means lost to us now. Even so, even if the planet is moving in space, the physical location on it's surface is the same and maybe that's all the Channeler needs to Travel.

And also because RJ needed that the main protagonists be more "special" and find out those weaves and use them almost exclusively to their inner circle, at least in the beginning.

I also share your thoughts on the easiness everybody has to copy weave and I like your analogy on the symphony. I guess that this late in the plot, the story doesn't center as much on the complexity of weaves and learning to use the Power, but more on the conclusion. See how cleansing the Source was done and how fast (in pages) it happened. When compared to the time spent showing us the girls in Tar Valon learning OP related stuff, it was done really fast. RJ even had to explain it to some readers on his blog. He focused more on the symbolism of the Cleansing than the way it was done.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1564 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 949 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 858 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 913 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 457 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 914 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 740 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 858 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1213 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 705 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 629 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 715 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 639 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 737 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 682 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 639 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 685 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 835 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 668 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 303 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 810 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 586 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 672 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 676 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 721 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 981 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 335 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 632 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 338 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 680 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 735 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 403 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 679 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1015 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 652 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 316 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 809 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 769 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1004 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 773 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 681 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 676 Views

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