To Travel, you need to know your point of departure in any case, not your destination.
Does it really change something? You open the Gateway and the location is not the same. You still end up somewhere that is not where you wanted to go. Ocean instead of a city, mountain instead of a forest. In the end, Traveling became unusable because of the changes in the landscape.
Your point about other planets is also, in my opinion flawed. Whose to say they used Traveling to go there and not some other means lost to us now. Even so, even if the planet is moving in space, the physical location on it's surface is the same and maybe that's all the Channeler needs to Travel.
And also because RJ needed that the main protagonists be more "special" and find out those weaves and use them almost exclusively to their inner circle, at least in the beginning.
I also share your thoughts on the easiness everybody has to copy weave and I like your analogy on the symphony. I guess that this late in the plot, the story doesn't center as much on the complexity of weaves and learning to use the Power, but more on the conclusion. See how cleansing the Source was done and how fast (in pages) it happened. When compared to the time spent showing us the girls in Tar Valon learning OP related stuff, it was done really fast. RJ even had to explain it to some readers on his blog. He focused more on the symbolism of the Cleansing than the way it was done.
Does it really change something? You open the Gateway and the location is not the same. You still end up somewhere that is not where you wanted to go. Ocean instead of a city, mountain instead of a forest. In the end, Traveling became unusable because of the changes in the landscape.
Your point about other planets is also, in my opinion flawed. Whose to say they used Traveling to go there and not some other means lost to us now. Even so, even if the planet is moving in space, the physical location on it's surface is the same and maybe that's all the Channeler needs to Travel.
And also because RJ needed that the main protagonists be more "special" and find out those weaves and use them almost exclusively to their inner circle, at least in the beginning.
I also share your thoughts on the easiness everybody has to copy weave and I like your analogy on the symphony. I guess that this late in the plot, the story doesn't center as much on the complexity of weaves and learning to use the Power, but more on the conclusion. See how cleansing the Source was done and how fast (in pages) it happened. When compared to the time spent showing us the girls in Tar Valon learning OP related stuff, it was done really fast. RJ even had to explain it to some readers on his blog. He focused more on the symbolism of the Cleansing than the way it was done.
How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ?
- 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM
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You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves
- 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM
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Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering
- 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM
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These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers
- 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM
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The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly...
- 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM
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Lost Weaves
- 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM
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Not logical
- 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM
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Re: Not logical
- 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM
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All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking..
- 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM
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If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle
- 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM
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I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge.
- 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM
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You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense
- 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM
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Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property
- 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM
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Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM*
- 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM
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If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the
- 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM
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Idea?
- 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM
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But they weren't too weak
- 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM
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That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers.
- 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM
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How can you "write a weave down"?
- 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM
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How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM*
- 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM
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figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM*
- 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM
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That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP...
- 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM
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OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM*
- 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM
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I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
- 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM
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Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP
- 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM
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We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC
- 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM
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Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism.
- 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM
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Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking
- 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM
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