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OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM
There's not a hint she thinks outside the WT box on this matter, and developped any proclivity to "figure out" new weaves.

That came only with the wondergirls and the barebone AS training that didn't suffice to brainwash them and burn in their brains the notion that one must never attempt to experiment anything with the OP.


Nynaeve "intuitive" knowledge of balefire is however "magical" (Nynaeve's intuitive talent is mostly if not strictly resricted to her main Talent area, much like Elayne). It actually came from her Accepted test, in which she just knew balefire - and anything weave she sees once, she can make again. She forgot it - repressed the memory that is - blocked it, then she intuitively remembered it later. There were a few scenes where Nynaeve had weird feelings about balefire, before the memory came back to her, much like she forgot her fears to embrace saidar when she's angry.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1934 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1260 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1140 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1260 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 600 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1240 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 1036 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1180 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1507 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 1016 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 928 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 1007 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 934 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 1065 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 992 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 953 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 1009 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1152 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 952 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 437 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 1105 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 880 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 996 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 1076 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 1067 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1124 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 474 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 960 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 477 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 1012 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 1018 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 533 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 982 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1319 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 947 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 453 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 1188 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 1094 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1366 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 1038 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 985 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 954 Views

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