It has been discussed on this board and the wotmania MB & TP in great detail how Rand's love interests fit the famous trio of feminine archetypes (Maiden, Mother and Crone), but what is the masculine equivalent? I would assume that RJ, particularly with his mythological references in mind, would have made some effort to maintain such a pattern, if there is one generally accepted, so how do Rand, Mat and Perrin fit into it? And if it can be expanded into a quartet of archetypes as the female set usually can, which character would be the fourth? Lan? Thom? Loial? Moridin? Is the last a trio unto himself (Ishamael, Ba'alzamon, Moridin) or could be taken to represent the stages of some grim progression of mental and moral degeneration in each of his identities?
What do we think?
What do we think?
the holly god and the oak god. the holly god is the younger aspect and the oak god is the older. at Beltane (start of summer) the two fight each other. if the holly god wins then summer comes.
interestingly they are actually the same person which could apply to Rand and LTT.
plus there's the Christian holy trinity...
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What would be the trio of masculine archetypes, and how would the ta'veren fit them?
- 05/09/2010 12:01:09 AM
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I can't think of any mythological trio of masculine types...
- 05/09/2010 12:30:13 AM
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there's a duo of masculine types
- 05/09/2010 01:29:41 AM
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Ooo I forgot about the Trinity
- 05/09/2010 02:13:33 AM
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Re: Ooo I forgot about the Trinity
- 05/09/2010 06:22:35 AM
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i do know all three members, thank you.
- 05/09/2010 02:43:31 PM
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The fact that you would call the Holy Ghost a vessel in that sense shows how little you know
- 05/09/2010 07:55:57 PM
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Re: The fact that you would call the Holy Ghost a vessel in that sense shows how little you know
- 05/09/2010 10:20:11 PM
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I wonder if those are the archetypes on which the buddy-cop dynamic is based.
- 05/09/2010 06:33:56 AM
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Take a look at Nordic Mythos
- 05/09/2010 05:41:08 AM
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Re: Take a look at Nordic Mythos
- 05/09/2010 07:18:22 AM
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Yes, Odin, Thor and Tyr were the centre trio of nordic mythology.
- 05/09/2010 06:25:51 PM
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The Father, the Wanderer and the Wise Old Man are in most myths and Jung wrote a lot about them
- 07/09/2010 07:57:28 PM
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norse mythology is the closest *NM*
- 07/09/2010 11:29:24 PM
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Yes, run and hide, sissy-boy. There's a reason Mom likes me better! *NM*
- 09/09/2010 12:39:13 AM
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