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That whole post is stupid, you can't compare Rand's ordeal to Egwene's. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 10:14:43 PM
Rand's scenario is this: He is the sole person who can save the world, and the absolute best he can hope for is to die in the process. He has the voice of a LTT, the Kinslayer, in his head, he channeled a tainted Saidin out of necessity for ages, he's had everything and everyone he loves taken from him, turned against him, or in the worst, been forced to act against those he loves (his actions towards the Two Rivers and especially Min). Oh, and he was stabbed by Fain's blade. We know how corrupting his voice is (look at Elaida) so imagine what that wound is doing? Not to mention Ishmael's wound.

Oh, and then there's fun little experiences like losing a hand to a fireball, being shown that your mother, who you never even met, is being personally held and tortured by the Dark One himself, being kept inside a box for a month and being let out only to be beaten (or worse - to helplessly watch your loved one being beaten)...

Honestly, it's a miracle that Rand didn't just destroy the world. He has flaws, true, but in his case the majority of his bad judgments can be attributed to the way life has shaped him.

Egwene on the flip side, has been pampered by the author. All of her bad judgments are excused or ignored because of the way the books are written (for example, why not keep at least SOME of the BA prisoner? Still them first to be safe, but don't miss out on the information they hold!). While I liked Egwene well enough in KoD, I think TGS played her into the martyr role a little to easily for me take it seriously. She hasn't actually experienced any mental hardships that I can think of beyond the physical treatment she received, and that pales against what Rand got.
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Rand vs Egwene... one-line scenarios - 05/09/2010 05:21:08 PM 3005 Views
loled at every one *NM* - 05/09/2010 05:35:03 PM 745 Views
Good for some sunday night relief I hope *NM* - 05/09/2010 09:51:10 PM 690 Views
Hmm... I don't think you want to read the rebuttal to that *NM* - 05/09/2010 06:07:16 PM 907 Views
True - 05/09/2010 09:52:09 PM 1316 Views
But you've already read my post *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:53:58 PM 773 Views
I only used one eye *NM* - 06/09/2010 11:52:19 AM 659 Views
Still counts *NM* - 06/09/2010 03:06:44 PM 688 Views
*NM* - 06/09/2010 01:02:44 AM 648 Views
Corrected for the sake of accuracy . - 05/09/2010 06:51:58 PM 1372 Views
Nonsense... - 05/09/2010 09:56:41 PM 1186 Views
Gotta love Dark Templar - 05/09/2010 10:14:00 PM 1292 Views
That's partly why I didn't post a reply poking at her. *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:56:15 PM 761 Views
Poking whom? - 06/09/2010 01:20:32 AM 1231 Views
Egwene. I thought that was implied *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:03:25 AM 673 Views
Nice. *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:37:38 PM 676 Views
nice *NM* - 05/09/2010 08:12:31 PM 625 Views
*drumroll* *NM* - 05/09/2010 09:56:54 PM 704 Views
That whole post is stupid, you can't compare Rand's ordeal to Egwene's. - 05/09/2010 10:14:43 PM 1359 Views
its a joke, shhhh *NM* - 05/09/2010 10:36:28 PM 876 Views
No, it's clever and tongue-in-cheek. *NM* - 05/09/2010 11:04:26 PM 686 Views
OMG - 06/09/2010 11:48:48 AM 1301 Views
I know, appalling, right? - 09/09/2010 07:27:40 AM 1206 Views
Re: I know, appalling, right? - 09/09/2010 07:41:02 AM 1251 Views
He doesn't think so, why should we? - 09/09/2010 03:40:25 PM 1139 Views
Because he can't lose - 09/09/2010 05:21:50 PM 1167 Views
I think Rand has far better odds of dying than Egwene. - 09/09/2010 05:56:07 PM 1202 Views
very nicely done - 05/09/2010 11:06:24 PM 1148 Views
Re: very nicely done - 06/09/2010 04:28:29 AM 1189 Views
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Revised for accurracy, improved characterization and humor - 06/09/2010 12:57:35 AM 1594 Views
the humor here is that you think you understand accurracy, improvement, characterization or humor! *NM* - 06/09/2010 01:56:57 AM 660 Views
I'm having to settle for being right. Better than being president... *NM* - 06/09/2010 03:47:52 AM 767 Views
I'm trying to resist the urge to make a Bush joke. *NM* - 06/09/2010 08:21:15 AM 680 Views
Why resist ... he WAS a joke! *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:31:06 PM 705 Views
BWAHAHAHAHA ... thanks to our last president you are right! *NM* - 06/09/2010 04:30:00 PM 664 Views
Re: Revised for accurracy, improved characterization and humor - 06/09/2010 11:51:12 AM 1310 Views
seriously. - 06/09/2010 05:12:08 PM 1268 Views
If a few score Yellows can't handle the disease issue, what point to the Aes Sedai at all? - 06/09/2010 10:17:44 PM 1403 Views
Re: If a few score Yellows can't handle the disease issue, what point to the Aes Sedai at all? - 08/09/2010 08:30:35 AM 1150 Views
Like Egwene understands the health implications! It's all about the aesthetics for her. - 09/09/2010 12:35:57 AM 1235 Views
Well, she was an apprentice wisdom with Nynaeve for a while - 09/09/2010 05:33:25 AM 1184 Views
An idiot would understand the implications - 09/09/2010 07:38:57 AM 1154 Views
and it's not just Egwene! - 11/09/2010 02:11:16 PM 1079 Views
Cannoli's just got huge blinders... - 11/09/2010 04:59:50 PM 1291 Views
You forgot one very important point - 11/09/2010 06:44:32 PM 1235 Views
As to that... - 11/09/2010 08:47:26 PM 1011 Views
after dealing with his bushwa waaay longer than you, I'm content to ignore him *NM* - 11/09/2010 11:29:27 PM 669 Views
Remember the old times? - 12/09/2010 03:35:43 AM 1207 Views
I think we could use - 12/09/2010 10:40:47 AM 1176 Views
ugh ... please don't ask for that! - 12/09/2010 02:25:32 PM 1148 Views
Huh. Now that I think of it... - 14/09/2010 06:51:59 AM 1101 Views
all of you are most correct! - 11/09/2010 07:53:44 PM 1128 Views
When exactly have I ever given someone else a pass for "necessary actions" I blamed Egwene for? - 14/09/2010 02:08:29 AM 1379 Views
A few days back... - 14/09/2010 04:03:41 AM 1212 Views
Yes, those are completely different scenarios. - 14/09/2010 05:36:30 AM 1723 Views
Misinterpretations... - 14/09/2010 07:26:11 AM 1131 Views
How can you claim Verin merely "helped" Egwene? - 15/09/2010 06:35:47 AM 1683 Views
Re: Cannoli's just got huge blinders... - 17/09/2010 06:42:39 AM 1400 Views
Read his replies in this thread... - 17/09/2010 06:48:20 AM 1190 Views
So your defense of Egwene is to refute her accusation against her rival? - 14/09/2010 02:12:22 AM 1230 Views
Double Post. See below. *NM* - 14/09/2010 04:03:55 AM 678 Views
How was Egwene to know Elaida made a half-hearted attempt? - 14/09/2010 04:06:15 AM 1136 Views
Re: How was Egwene to know Elaida made a half-hearted attempt? - 14/09/2010 06:58:17 AM 1237 Views
I give up. - 14/09/2010 07:44:57 AM 1291 Views
lol *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:46:23 PM 616 Views
I laughed very hard at this part: - 09/09/2010 07:48:34 PM 1120 Views
Somehow I think of the lyrics from "Defying Gravity", which aren't quite one line - 07/09/2010 04:07:09 PM 1208 Views
Look at it these ways - 08/09/2010 02:47:46 AM 1289 Views
People are taking this way too seriously. - 08/09/2010 06:33:28 AM 1202 Views
no argument there! *NM* - 09/09/2010 05:08:25 AM 422 Views
Re: Look at it these ways - 09/09/2010 07:26:37 AM 1108 Views
It really comes down to the direction RJ went with his personality - 09/09/2010 03:08:36 PM 1057 Views
This post was funny. Your responders are largely idiots who need a sense of humor. *NM* - 08/09/2010 03:56:07 AM 784 Views
I really hate self-fulfilling prophecy. *NM* - 08/09/2010 06:34:45 AM 742 Views
Hee. <3 *NM* - 09/09/2010 10:14:55 PM 690 Views
Re: Rand vs Egwene... one-line scenarios - 10/09/2010 06:28:50 AM 1027 Views

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