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I'm going to make one last attempt before giving up Deadsy Send a noteboard - 20/09/2010 10:03:54 PM
Min actually states that the only viewing she ever got wrong was that Rand could not succeed without a woman dead and gone. IIRC she never once thinks about Thom and Moiraine.


"Rand will die without Moiraine."


This viewing CANNOT fail. It isn't possible. If Moiraine dies, then the viewing comes true. If she lives, the viewing comes true. It's just a statement. He'll die if Moiraine dies. It's 100% impossible for this viewing to fail. It's like saying "The grass will grow if it rains." If it rains it will grow, if it doesn't rain it won't grow. It can't fail. It's correct no matter what happens. Therefore, this is not the viewing that Min is thinking of.

What failed is a viewing Min had about Moiraine doing something that she hasn't done yet, which is impossible to do if she's gone. There's nothing about the dead and gone viewing which is impossible. As far as Min knows the viewing is still accurate. Moiraine is dead, Rand will fail, the viewing is correct.
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moiraine's three questions Foxhead - 18/09/2010 12:21:52 AM 1866 Views
She knew he'd survive because Min told Moiraine they end up together, and they weren't a couple yet. TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2010 12:56:09 AM 998 Views
Can that really be right? ursidae - 18/09/2010 06:44:40 PM 1184 Views
That is her "thimble of hope" that she mentions twice *NM* Deadsy - 18/09/2010 07:41:23 PM 435 Views
Re: That is her "thimble of hope" that she mentions twice darius_sedai - 18/09/2010 08:19:03 PM 988 Views
She needs to have known that she would see Thom again Deadsy - 18/09/2010 08:25:37 PM 964 Views
Re: She needs to have known that she would see Thom again darius_sedai - 18/09/2010 09:26:26 PM 978 Views
It doesn't change your point, but I know she hadn't entered the doorway yet. It was in this chapter Deadsy - 18/09/2010 11:58:53 PM 838 Views
I'll take your word for it darius_sedai - 19/09/2010 06:10:43 AM 912 Views
You're misinterpreting which viewing is the one which Min believes turned out wrong. TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2010 03:33:04 AM 858 Views
???? darius_sedai - 19/09/2010 06:08:11 AM 1000 Views
Wrong, she never specifies WHICH viewing was the wrong one. Cannoli - 19/09/2010 07:28:21 AM 1062 Views
It's something that you have to work out for yourself, it's not thrown in your face. TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2010 06:35:43 PM 909 Views
I see your logic trail, I just don't think Min would have told something like that to Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/09/2010 09:46:01 PM 962 Views
What on earth gave you that idea? Min has always liked Moiraine. Deadsy - 20/09/2010 09:59:09 PM 856 Views
Dude. She tells Moiraine about it immediately upon first seeing Thom in Baerlon. TaskmasterJack - 21/09/2010 12:13:58 AM 877 Views
No, you're the one who's wrong. DomA - 19/09/2010 07:54:02 PM 958 Views
*shrugs* ... as I stated before I see the logic you are all pointing too ... it just doesn't seem darius_sedai - 20/09/2010 09:48:02 PM 1040 Views
Are you forgetting EOTW? It was crystal clear that Min told Moiraine about all of her viewings Deadsy - 20/09/2010 09:56:36 PM 1004 Views
She doesn't have any reason to think that's wrong yet, though. Sareitha Sedai - 20/09/2010 06:02:37 PM 1069 Views
I'm going to make one last attempt before giving up Deadsy - 20/09/2010 10:03:54 PM 952 Views
Yes, you're right newyorkersedai - 21/09/2010 12:20:47 AM 850 Views
another interpretation (albeit, irrelevant to this discussion ) LadyLorraine - 21/09/2010 04:55:30 AM 984 Views
If that fulfilled the viewing Min would never have said Deadsy - 21/09/2010 05:07:34 AM 875 Views
it's likely Jim - 18/09/2010 07:53:30 PM 1057 Views
And she said the husband comment before going to the Aelfinn, and believed his survival back in EotW Cannoli - 19/09/2010 12:15:26 AM 979 Views
Re: And she said the husband comment before going to the Aelfinn... DomA - 19/09/2010 08:20:29 PM 1030 Views
EotW p568 Cannoli - 21/09/2010 05:22:23 PM 1022 Views
She probably asked how to best guide and protect Rand Cannoli - 19/09/2010 12:20:56 AM 1104 Views
I tend to agree DomA - 19/09/2010 07:08:50 PM 1084 Views
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