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The purpose is thematic and scientific; & keep in mind that most were bound from just one thing... newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 19/10/2010 12:45:03 AM
so a random and not super interesting question.....but why does the oath rod (fka a binder or some such) make the person who swears on it appear to be ageless? what is the point of making a criminal's face look that way or even why did they want them to look different from the rest of society? it doesn't make any sense that in the AoL, when civilization was at its peak, they would have branded criminals, so to speak.....


First, the science: Accessing the OP gives channelers an extremely long life-span. When one is bound, it diminishes that longevity and causes one to look "sorta-ageless." Non-channelers don't get to live 500 years, so clearly it's the connection to the power that makes people live longer. While we don't know all the details behind it, it's clear that a channeler's access to the OP must be affected by the Oath Rod (aka THX-113 in some way - perhaps it's like a barrier or a filter.

Well, that barrier/filter/whatever interferes with the way that the OP "rejuvenates" or "maintains" a channelers' youthful appearance and physical age/fitness. Since the channeler who does punishable naughty things in the AoL was bound - through and by their connection to the thing that keeps them young - it makes sense that it changed the way in which their "youthfulness" would show.

Thematically, though, is another matter. Now, a lot of WoT's world can be fit into Christian mythology. In the Bible, the first people - Adam, Eve, and several generations of their descendants - had absurdly long lives. If you're not familiar, early Biblical people were living to the age of 500 years regularly, many generations after Cain and Abel. The presumption - which I'm voicing for the first time, so I may be wrong - is that humans were given long/eternal lives by the Christian God; the reduction in life span was caused by humankind's growing distance from that God.

God made Adam and Eve perfect, with no disease or struggle to harvest crops, or birth pains. When they turned their backs on God, they knew physical pain and toil. As the generations continued to pass, those humans were even further removed from God, and the long lives that he granted to his earliest creations...

Thematically, this matches with the WoT neatly enough: channelers that were more "in harmony" with the Pattern (e.g., not hurting or killing others) got to live an amazingly long life. Think about those two AS who founded Rhuidean - the suggestion is that they may have been actual AoL Aes Sedai, even though enough time had passed for the Aiel to become total badasses. Actually, one of Semi's POVs expressed the idea that being "bound" would actually give her a life-span.

Those channelers who were not "harmonious" were in fact going against the Pattern. When they were officially "bound" from doing things that were bad, the result of that limitation placed on them would be a shorter life.

Finally, it should also be noted: someone like Semirhage would probably only get one "binding" - something to keep her from harming others for her own pleasure. RJ went on record as saying that one Oath would not produce the ageless effect, but that 3 Oaths would. I'm inclined to think that this might never have been observed in the AoL - education was much greater, so perhaps they could've gotten all the "bad stuff" locked up in one go.

On another thematic level of WoT - its love of the way that things are perceived and used differently in time. What was once a clearly shameful event (criminal sanction, restriction of freedom and life) has been ignorantly re-purposed into a glorious one (entering the WT as a full Sister). This means that, once again, the Randland folks are using an AoL object for something other than its intended purpose, and that the result would be something that was uncommon in the AoL.

That tangent aside: If you look back over the nature of that imaginary time-period, it seems like folks may not have had several crime-level flaws at once. People's weaknesses and failings seemed relatively simple, or prone to expressing in one vice, as opposed to many. That guy who knocked down Rand's ancestor was full of himself, and quick to disparage an "average citizen" instead of being conscientious. Those AoL folk may have been pretty vanilla until the DO showed up... So some guy might've drugged women to get them to have sex, but he wasn't also necessarily a thief, arsonist, murderer, AND a forger of checks. That would require more than one Oath, as I see it. (I doubt "I will do no wrong" is a viable option, since the Oaths seem relative to the sworn person's interpretation.)

Someone like Baalthamel wouldn't need 3 restrictions placed by a binder - maybe just one. Or two, going by his BWB description. It's quite possible that few AoL people ever received more than one Oath. This makes the ageless look that occurs in the current Randland seems more and more a total accident. Which is where I sit on the matter whether we talk science, themes, or what have you.

Wow, that really took a long time to write out properly...
This message last edited by newyorkersedai on 19/10/2010 at 02:04:01 AM
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side effect? *NM* - 18/10/2010 03:21:46 PM 185 Views
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but why? and why agelessness? and the oath rod is only for use on channelers.... *NM* - 19/10/2010 04:26:41 PM 185 Views
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