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Re: well it's a fan-site so we're nit-picky Fox and Ravens Send a noteboard - 05/12/2010 04:18:15 PM
I'm not trying to shoot anyone's opinions down, nor am I trying to say that the hatred for ToM isn't unfounded, I just would like to know why the people who do hate ToM (and there do seem to be a lot of you floating around) hated it so?

I can understand the writing style of BS really turning people off, but we kind of had to expect this of the middle of the "final book", didn't we? I mean, when RJ died, a good portion of tGS was either written or at least well prepared, and since BS has already stated before that the ending has been written by RJ, its safe to assume that AMoL will still have a good portion of RJ left in it. I personally don't hate BS's style; it takes some getting used to, but I don't think its as atrocious as people are making it out to be.

I personally rather liked ToM. tGS was much better (my second favorite of the series), but it was still good, considering we do have CoT and WH to look back on. Sure, there were moments when I cringed, but there were moments like that in tGS as well (Rand shaking his fist at the DO, anyone?). I thought Mat was written well, and while I know certain things are just not gonna be explained, I'm okay with that. Maybe its just me; I've been reading since I was 2, and over the years I've come to accept that things don't always have to be explained. Not saying that those of you who want everything explained are wrong; just saying that is who I am.

Anyway, I guess this thread is really just a rant thread for those who want to voice their ire, their frustration, and their outright hate for ToM. I would like to understand why.


TOM had some glaring problems ... For me it was still enjoyable, but there were definitely moments that made me cringe.

I can't believe you thought he got Mat right! Personally Mat was once one of my favorite characters, now I don't particularly love him. RJ's use of Mat's particular sense of humor and moral code was very different than how Brandon is portraying him.


I agree. It's not that BS's Mat is good or bad to me. Both types of Mat are good. They're just so very different.
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Whats with all the hate? - 05/12/2010 03:46:29 PM 1806 Views
I think all the hate is mainly because BS got some stuff wrong - 05/12/2010 04:02:25 PM 1186 Views
well it's a fan-site so we're nit-picky - 05/12/2010 04:14:34 PM 1018 Views
Re: well it's a fan-site so we're nit-picky - 05/12/2010 04:18:15 PM 877 Views
Sanderson just makes him too much of a clown for me - 05/12/2010 04:21:34 PM 1031 Views
I've posted this once or twice before, but - 05/12/2010 06:04:55 PM 1018 Views
hater gotta hate! *strikes a pose* *NM* - 05/12/2010 06:31:03 PM 418 Views
and lovers gotta love? Uncritically? *NM* *NM* - 05/12/2010 08:22:13 PM 414 Views
Lovers can love and still be critical. - 05/12/2010 08:46:40 PM 802 Views
Re: Lovers can love and still be critical. - 05/12/2010 09:03:16 PM 979 Views
This. - 05/12/2010 09:19:24 PM 1016 Views
exactly. ToM had it's flaws, but it was still satisfying - 05/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 788 Views
Hate is such a strong word.... - 05/12/2010 07:35:04 PM 1096 Views
Re: Hate is such a strong word.... - 05/12/2010 08:25:23 PM 995 Views
Re: Hate is such a strong word.... - 05/12/2010 09:07:27 PM 1192 Views
I agree with you on just about everything, but have you considered ... - 05/12/2010 10:59:50 PM 883 Views
I think there definitely IS more to come - 06/12/2010 01:11:00 AM 834 Views
I understand how people might be unhappy and frustrated - 06/12/2010 12:09:09 AM 852 Views
Very well put - 06/12/2010 01:23:23 AM 941 Views
I'd love to see a re-edit of ToM and TGS - 06/12/2010 01:10:00 AM 851 Views
Why Not - 06/12/2010 07:48:10 PM 784 Views
I imagine there will be an ebook that is reorganized that way. - 07/12/2010 01:43:33 AM 793 Views
I agree - 07/12/2010 03:17:56 AM 942 Views
Personally I don't get it. If I wanted to read Shakespeare I would've picked up Hamlet. - 05/12/2010 08:24:04 PM 790 Views
Re: Personally I don't get it. If I wanted to read Shakespeare I would've picked up Hamlet. - 05/12/2010 08:28:09 PM 899 Views
*lol* Hey man, to each his own! - 05/12/2010 08:41:51 PM 900 Views
Yeah, what's wrong with the Hobbit? - 05/12/2010 09:22:38 PM 1006 Views
*lol* You can still agree but not on everything! - 05/12/2010 11:36:55 PM 888 Views
Re: *lol* You can still agree but not on everything! - 06/12/2010 03:29:56 AM 995 Views
Re: *lol* You can still agree but not on everything! - 07/12/2010 12:03:47 AM 874 Views
Character Stupidity, inaction. - 06/12/2010 07:42:51 PM 961 Views
Wow. I had no idea people felt this way. - 07/12/2010 03:30:08 AM 958 Views
Similarly short, similar number of Perrin/Faile/Shaido chapters, - 07/12/2010 09:59:48 AM 861 Views
Take out the cleansing and what happened in WH? - 08/12/2010 03:52:31 AM 939 Views
Mat and Tuon, Elayne and Andor, and the Shaido Plot; as in COT - 08/12/2010 06:12:19 AM 836 Views
Point. - 08/12/2010 09:15:50 PM 814 Views

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