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Actually I'm not being flippant guttering flame Send a noteboard - 15/12/2010 05:58:22 AM
Replicating your scars on the next generation is actually a lot more common than you might think. Why should those new young uppity Aes Sedai get to live twice as long as you and not suffer from a painful facelift when you do? They should suffer as much as you if they want to be like you. Examples from RL abound.


Are you being serious or is this just a flippant post? I'm sorry I can't tell just by reading text on a screen in this case. I really lean towards flippant...


Practically every questionable tradition works in this manner. They're often justified in some manner but those justifications tend to ring hollow.

To take just one example, look at humiliating and often illegal initiating ceremonies in military units where beatings, scarring and/or semi-rapish scenarios are enacted on the initiates by the senior members. These stories crop up again and again. They're not isolated incidents. Would you be shocked how often these things have to be broken from the outside with only one or two members of the hundreds that experienced it willing to complain and break the silence at first? or condemn it when it's revealed?

This story is as old as dirt.
This message last edited by guttering flame on 15/12/2010 at 06:02:25 AM
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Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 03:12:00 PM 1841 Views
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Re: Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 10:44:01 PM 832 Views
*shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is - 07/12/2010 03:26:21 PM 837 Views
I wonder what would have happened if she refused and left the tower entirely. - 07/12/2010 03:30:58 PM 831 Views
I doubt they would have stopped her ... but there was no real reason for her to refuse the - 07/12/2010 03:34:20 PM 788 Views
no there wasn't a real reason for her to refuse. It'd still be interesting if she did *NM* - 07/12/2010 03:37:45 PM 389 Views
would have made for an interesting spin on the plot - 07/12/2010 05:37:31 PM 792 Views
How is she not a lead? - 07/12/2010 06:25:45 PM 755 Views
She has never really had her own unique plot line - 07/12/2010 06:34:40 PM 723 Views
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that - 07/12/2010 07:46:08 PM 776 Views
Nothing to really argue here except perspective ... to each their own *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM 383 Views
Re: *shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is - 07/12/2010 10:49:12 PM 809 Views
I think that is true of the testing not the Oaths - 08/12/2010 05:08:22 PM 739 Views
she shouldn't have, although I think they should trash the oaths in general - 07/12/2010 03:29:21 PM 752 Views
agreed! and I think Nynaeve's testing rather proved that point - 07/12/2010 03:35:38 PM 812 Views
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well it looks like such a coalition is part of the plan - 07/12/2010 03:47:03 PM 775 Views
I meant one that would destroy the White Tower - 07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM 834 Views
ahh I see. well maybe they shall - 07/12/2010 04:00:52 PM 737 Views
She was always going to have to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 04:42:59 PM 769 Views
Good old political necessity - 07/12/2010 06:29:26 PM 665 Views
Amyrlin's decree - 07/12/2010 09:56:51 PM 753 Views
Brace yourselves, everybody... - 08/12/2010 02:56:43 PM 701 Views
Ooops, double post! *NM* - 08/12/2010 02:58:01 PM 380 Views
And what? To miss all the awesomeness she had before/during/after the test? - 07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM 720 Views
I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far. - 07/12/2010 07:02:43 PM 878 Views
Re: I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far. - 16/12/2010 10:40:39 AM 621 Views
And yet people keep choosing donuts over lettuce *NM* - 16/12/2010 10:47:04 AM 404 Views
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Has Egwene swore the Oaths? - 08/12/2010 03:11:37 PM 812 Views
Yes - she swore on the Oath Rod in TGS. *NM* - 08/12/2010 03:22:31 PM 432 Views
Love Nynaeve... - 10/12/2010 09:49:13 AM 699 Views
On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths. - 14/12/2010 04:53:28 AM 683 Views
Re: On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths. - 14/12/2010 11:53:43 AM 751 Views
Passing your scars on - 14/12/2010 07:07:43 PM 606 Views
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Actually I'm not being flippant - 15/12/2010 05:58:22 AM 707 Views
So? - 15/12/2010 11:40:32 AM 772 Views

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