I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance
Logain Send a noteboard - 18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM
My theory is that Egwene is successful in convincing enough people to stop Rand that he has to go to the Seanchan for help. I think that in demand for female channelers to assist Rand in resealing the bore that in return Tuon demands that Rand submit to her authority, e.g. publicly acknowledge her and bow before her (that sort of thing). In addition, I think Rand demands the Seanchan covenant not to attack further nations in the Westlands and demands that the Seanchan not take female channelers except in the lands they already occupy now.
Then Rand, with the help of Seanchan female channelers, defeats the Dark One, saving humankind. This also happens to fulfill Egwene's dream of being rescued by a Seanchan. If the Seanchan hadn't helped Rand nobody would have beaten the DO and Egwene would end up dead. Thus, the Seanchan saved her (and the rest of the world). At some point after the DO is resealed, the White Tower and the rest of the world come to the knowledge that they almost caused the destruction of the world by opposing Rand's plan and supporting Egwene. They are all thankful to the Seanchan and this is enough for them to support the peace that Rand negotiated with the Seanchan.
Then Rand, with the help of Seanchan female channelers, defeats the Dark One, saving humankind. This also happens to fulfill Egwene's dream of being rescued by a Seanchan. If the Seanchan hadn't helped Rand nobody would have beaten the DO and Egwene would end up dead. Thus, the Seanchan saved her (and the rest of the world). At some point after the DO is resealed, the White Tower and the rest of the world come to the knowledge that they almost caused the destruction of the world by opposing Rand's plan and supporting Egwene. They are all thankful to the Seanchan and this is enough for them to support the peace that Rand negotiated with the Seanchan.
The significance of 23 stars (TOM Spoilers)
- 14/12/2010 11:48:55 PM
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It would be a first...
- 15/12/2010 02:46:33 AM
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Re: It would be a first...
- 15/12/2010 04:39:17 AM
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I think people aren't giving Egwene enough credit.
- 15/12/2010 04:59:09 AM
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She's not bringing everyone for a discussion, but for leverage to force him to change his mind.
- 19/12/2010 09:54:49 PM
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- 20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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- 20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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- 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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- 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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Sadly, the thing you reference four times isn't actually anywhere in the book.
- 29/12/2010 03:17:15 AM
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+1
- 29/12/2010 07:10:41 AM
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I think the Tower needs a singular leader, though you may be right.
- 29/12/2010 12:51:19 PM
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- 15/12/2010 12:43:49 PM
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Dear lord, you wrote the Egwene haters' ultimate fantasy right there
- 19/12/2010 01:41:55 AM
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One problematic issue...This assumes the Dark One cannot hold himself back once the Seals are broken
- 15/12/2010 07:57:53 AM
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Err, it's the other way around
- 15/12/2010 09:00:38 AM
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I see. It's the same thing, really, just looking at it from the opposite perspective...
- 15/12/2010 09:14:22 AM
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Don't you know it's all about the posturing
- 15/12/2010 09:40:15 AM
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agreed, it'd also be a terribly boring book to read if the DO was defensive
- 15/12/2010 09:56:37 AM
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It's more that you take it out of context
- 15/12/2010 11:32:36 AM
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The DO will be forced to act because breaking the seals is inherently an attempt to seal the bore...
- 15/12/2010 08:51:38 PM
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While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role
- 15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM
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I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance
- 18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM
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Egwene's dream seems a little more personal than that
- 18/12/2010 04:55:37 AM
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Yes
- 18/12/2010 07:57:35 AM
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Actually, I think Tuon will capture her, and then release her. *NM*
- 18/12/2010 02:47:42 PM
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- 18/12/2010 02:48:40 PM
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wow. I'm not an egwene hater but I will if the freaking idiot sitters & she are the stars
- 15/12/2010 12:02:12 PM
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I wish
- 16/12/2010 08:29:23 PM
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That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
- 19/12/2010 11:30:35 PM
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Man, that's the best take on Egwene I have ever read.
- 20/12/2010 12:38:07 AM
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Re: That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
- 20/12/2010 04:39:57 PM
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Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
- 29/12/2010 03:38:59 AM
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Re: Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
- 29/12/2010 07:32:49 AM
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It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed.
- 29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM
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Ensure this value has at most 100 characters (it has 101).
- 29/12/2010 03:00:22 PM
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Ah, good point; Rand might have to do the job himself.
- 29/12/2010 06:43:44 PM
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More likely to be Flinn.
- 29/12/2010 08:18:19 PM
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Maybe, once he knows the signs and techniques.
- 30/12/2010 03:10:27 PM
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Not sure if Rand had seized the source yet - he wouldn't have wanted to do it in front of Ramshalan
- 30/12/2010 03:15:43 PM
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Not only must I agree with you, but I think you've divined Egwenes ultimate destiny.
- 29/12/2010 03:41:59 AM
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