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I did, maybe you made the mistake malekithe Send a noteboard - 02/01/2011 07:13:54 PM
And you'll find this:

For Sidious, when Alivia faced Cyndane, Alivia was by far the stronger because of her angreal, and had various tools (ter'angreal) to work with besides, but Cyndane was much, much more knowledgeable about channeling. Alivia, after all, knew relatively little except how to be a weapon. That was very useful in the situation, but in this case, knowledge versus strength made it an even match.


On this Link that was provided:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0ApFWTyzG9G_UdHZCUjQzVGNLeUJyMkUycXkzQlExSFE&output=html

I don't see 'Alivia' anywhere when I did a word search


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How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? malekithe - 31/12/2010 08:03:39 PM 3982 Views
As RJ said, Cyndane knows a LOT more about the OP darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 08:33:47 PM 1894 Views
Re: As RJ said, Cyndane knows a LOT more about the OP malekithe - 31/12/2010 11:54:57 PM 1659 Views
RJ said this .. Go look at his quotes *NM* darius_sedai - 01/01/2011 05:59:37 AM 1029 Views
Re: RJ said this .. Go look at his quotes malekithe - 01/01/2011 06:43:09 AM 1468 Views
Dude, he calls it out specifically. Cyndane beat Alivia because of her skill darius_sedai - 01/01/2011 03:22:48 PM 1486 Views
Search for "Alivia" moratcorlm - 01/01/2011 05:58:53 PM 1412 Views
nothing on either url *NM* malekithe - 01/01/2011 11:02:05 PM 658 Views
Try spelling it correctly then moratcorlm - 02/01/2011 01:30:23 AM 1391 Views
I did, maybe you made the mistake malekithe - 02/01/2011 07:13:54 PM 1171 Views
Re: I did, maybe you made the mistake moratcorlm - 02/01/2011 07:51:22 PM 1306 Views
Here are few other quotes establishing how little Alivia knows of the OP darius_sedai - 02/01/2011 07:39:36 PM 1427 Views
Damane don't know about reversed weaves Skeeve the Great - 31/12/2010 09:56:51 PM 1550 Views
Re: Damane don't know about reversed weaves malekithe - 31/12/2010 11:48:15 PM 1371 Views
Re: Damane don't know about reversed weaves Demortae - 01/01/2011 01:18:50 AM 1352 Views
How did *Alivia* survive? redqueen - 01/01/2011 12:45:29 AM 1686 Views
Re: How did *Alivia* survive? malekithe - 01/01/2011 01:26:09 AM 1491 Views
Yes, odd. redqueen - 01/01/2011 01:45:01 AM 1376 Views
Nicola wasn't the dragon reborn with the pattern bending around her Helene - 02/01/2011 12:24:50 PM 1263 Views
Not really ... Rand has had LTT knowledge leaking into his head for a long time darius_sedai - 02/01/2011 07:13:41 PM 1338 Views
reversed weaves are only useful when dealing with someone who doesn't know they exist. Onarishma - 03/01/2011 07:51:01 PM 1222 Views
Depends on the circumstances really darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 02:17:29 PM 1353 Views
but why would she have any idea that Nynaeve would be able to resist her. Onarishma - 10/01/2011 07:30:49 PM 1254 Views
Well she did get attacked right off the bat... Pretty indicative that Nyn resist her compulsion darius_sedai - 11/01/2011 12:56:51 AM 1256 Views
Exactly. which is why she didn't have time to do any "fancy" and time consuming reversing. Onarishma - 11/01/2011 03:23:50 PM 1418 Views
that's where she made her mistake darius_sedai - 11/01/2011 04:47:56 PM 1215 Views
It would be these memories, his t'a'veren nature & sheer luck/plot necessity that gave him the edge RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/01/2011 10:32:43 PM 1318 Views
Well that was always going to happen DrJacJacMcScrumptious - 03/01/2011 11:41:22 PM 1281 Views
Yes. As I said, it would have been a very different series. Thanks for going into detail ! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/01/2011 04:47:51 PM 1290 Views
agreed darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 02:18:23 PM 1301 Views
Re: How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? damer - 01/01/2011 12:56:54 AM 1479 Views
Re: How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? Demortae - 01/01/2011 01:13:39 AM 1370 Views
She's just that good ˥ɐ ʎpu∀ɹ - 01/01/2011 01:48:26 AM 1378 Views
magic *NM* fistofpainx - 01/01/2011 08:17:16 PM 604 Views
Cyndane injured Alivia, yes, but Alivia fought Cyndane off. Heiko - 02/01/2011 12:36:12 AM 1401 Views
Re: Cyndane injured Alivia, yes, but Alivia fought Cyndane off. Voscaia Sedai - 02/01/2011 09:56:34 AM 1329 Views
Yup. Joel - 02/01/2011 03:12:39 PM 1289 Views
Small correction - It has not been established that Alivia is stronger than Cyndane unaided... Shannow - 02/01/2011 06:02:53 PM 1314 Views
Alivia has little experience fighting channellers, unlike Lanfear (most likely)... DomA - 03/01/2011 12:56:43 AM 1808 Views
I agree with you moratcorlm - 03/01/2011 01:08:35 AM 1342 Views
Demandred wasn't commenting on Cadsuane's paralis net, but on her little bird saidin detector... Shannow - 03/01/2011 07:01:08 AM 1407 Views
Where do you get this idea? *NM* moratcorlm - 03/01/2011 07:19:50 PM 715 Views
Well, he's definitely right he was commenting on one of the specific ter'angreal in her "net". DomA - 03/01/2011 10:51:09 PM 1365 Views
I'm thinking there are 2 items that break webs in different ways darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 07:51:46 PM 1325 Views
Very interesting point. I never noticed that before... Shannow - 05/01/2011 08:02:52 AM 1264 Views
Cadsuane has two types of weavebreakers... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2011 12:51:38 PM 1143 Views
inconclusive ... the ornament may be the same one she used to disrupt Semirhage darius_sedai - 05/01/2011 04:09:39 PM 1227 Views
I'm confused... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2011 06:15:06 PM 1223 Views
Why should Cadsuane's "distance" unraveler not also go cold at nearby channeling? Shannow - 05/01/2011 06:51:49 PM 1234 Views
I'd buy this. Myrdhyn - 05/01/2011 07:12:50 PM 1192 Views
Except Cyndane had never heard of a ter'angreal that can unravel weaves... Shannow - 05/01/2011 07:18:58 PM 1133 Views
Not necessarily. Myrdhyn - 05/01/2011 09:26:49 PM 1241 Views
I doubt it since LTT claims they created the "first" ones in the AOL darius_sedai - 08/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1166 Views
The first paralis nets, not necessarily the first weave breakers. Myrdhyn - 09/01/2011 09:53:56 PM 1227 Views
Maybe, but that's getting really convoluted darius_sedai - 10/01/2011 03:36:17 AM 1086 Views
Agreed Myrdhyn - 10/01/2011 05:14:45 PM 1187 Views
I don't remember if the AS Symbol was used prior to the AOL ... if so then it's possible *NM* darius_sedai - 10/01/2011 05:55:38 PM 647 Views
It would fit the various scenarios if she had 2 kinds ... darius_sedai - 05/01/2011 03:53:48 PM 1223 Views
Because Demandred said so... Shannow - 04/01/2011 07:28:56 AM 1282 Views
Re: Because Demandred said so... moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 08:45:38 AM 1322 Views
Well there you have it, then... Shannow - 04/01/2011 09:24:38 AM 1214 Views
Contortions moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 09:56:11 AM 8184 Views
If anyone made a mistake, it was Sanderson, not RJ. Shannow - 04/01/2011 10:07:30 AM 1179 Views
Re: If anyone made a mistake, it was Sanderson, not RJ. moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 10:35:45 AM 1384 Views
I don't think Rand is referring to the system as an indivisible whole. Shannow - 04/01/2011 10:45:24 AM 1335 Views
Besides, he knew of the Well from their previous visit to Far Madding... Shannow - 04/01/2011 11:18:39 AM 1307 Views
It's also possible that a Paralis Net is simply a name for any personal system darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 09:23:18 PM 1386 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/01/2011 07:08:19 PM 1239 Views
Re: Demandred wasn't commenting on Cadsuane's paralis net, but on her little bird saidin detector... DomA - 03/01/2011 10:01:00 PM 1304 Views
I cannot remember Semirhage's reference to a paralis net, but if she did do so, it is problematic... Shannow - 04/01/2011 07:31:24 AM 1248 Views
It's a throw-away line moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 08:48:25 AM 1355 Views
I had the opposite view of the WO Dreamwalkers vs the Wolves in the Wolf-dream RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/01/2011 05:07:56 PM 1325 Views
Agreed. Knowledge is power when it comes to channeling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/01/2011 10:26:37 PM 1217 Views
Re: Agreed. Knowledge is power when it comes to channeling. DomA - 03/01/2011 11:07:20 PM 1338 Views
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