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Except Cyndane had never heard of a ter'angreal that can unravel weaves... Shannow Send a noteboard - 05/01/2011 07:18:58 PM
The Ancient AS symbol as the eye of the foxhead has always implied to me that it was a very old (AOL/WOS or maybe older) artifact. Taking this into account it's not unbelievable, or even unlikely, that Cadsuane's net is a breaking era, more perfected invention.


So neither Mat's foxhead nor Cadsuane's weave unraveler had existed in the Age of Legends.

Both seem to have come from the period after the Sealing of the Bore.
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How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? malekithe - 31/12/2010 08:03:39 PM 3984 Views
As RJ said, Cyndane knows a LOT more about the OP darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 08:33:47 PM 1894 Views
Re: As RJ said, Cyndane knows a LOT more about the OP malekithe - 31/12/2010 11:54:57 PM 1662 Views
RJ said this .. Go look at his quotes *NM* darius_sedai - 01/01/2011 05:59:37 AM 1029 Views
Re: RJ said this .. Go look at his quotes malekithe - 01/01/2011 06:43:09 AM 1470 Views
Dude, he calls it out specifically. Cyndane beat Alivia because of her skill darius_sedai - 01/01/2011 03:22:48 PM 1488 Views
Search for "Alivia" moratcorlm - 01/01/2011 05:58:53 PM 1414 Views
nothing on either url *NM* malekithe - 01/01/2011 11:02:05 PM 658 Views
Try spelling it correctly then moratcorlm - 02/01/2011 01:30:23 AM 1392 Views
I did, maybe you made the mistake malekithe - 02/01/2011 07:13:54 PM 1172 Views
Re: I did, maybe you made the mistake moratcorlm - 02/01/2011 07:51:22 PM 1307 Views
Here are few other quotes establishing how little Alivia knows of the OP darius_sedai - 02/01/2011 07:39:36 PM 1430 Views
Damane don't know about reversed weaves Skeeve the Great - 31/12/2010 09:56:51 PM 1552 Views
Re: Damane don't know about reversed weaves malekithe - 31/12/2010 11:48:15 PM 1372 Views
Re: Damane don't know about reversed weaves Demortae - 01/01/2011 01:18:50 AM 1352 Views
How did *Alivia* survive? redqueen - 01/01/2011 12:45:29 AM 1688 Views
Re: How did *Alivia* survive? malekithe - 01/01/2011 01:26:09 AM 1491 Views
Yes, odd. redqueen - 01/01/2011 01:45:01 AM 1378 Views
Nicola wasn't the dragon reborn with the pattern bending around her Helene - 02/01/2011 12:24:50 PM 1263 Views
Not really ... Rand has had LTT knowledge leaking into his head for a long time darius_sedai - 02/01/2011 07:13:41 PM 1341 Views
reversed weaves are only useful when dealing with someone who doesn't know they exist. Onarishma - 03/01/2011 07:51:01 PM 1222 Views
Depends on the circumstances really darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 02:17:29 PM 1355 Views
but why would she have any idea that Nynaeve would be able to resist her. Onarishma - 10/01/2011 07:30:49 PM 1257 Views
Well she did get attacked right off the bat... Pretty indicative that Nyn resist her compulsion darius_sedai - 11/01/2011 12:56:51 AM 1256 Views
Exactly. which is why she didn't have time to do any "fancy" and time consuming reversing. Onarishma - 11/01/2011 03:23:50 PM 1421 Views
that's where she made her mistake darius_sedai - 11/01/2011 04:47:56 PM 1215 Views
It would be these memories, his t'a'veren nature & sheer luck/plot necessity that gave him the edge RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/01/2011 10:32:43 PM 1320 Views
Well that was always going to happen DrJacJacMcScrumptious - 03/01/2011 11:41:22 PM 1281 Views
Yes. As I said, it would have been a very different series. Thanks for going into detail ! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/01/2011 04:47:51 PM 1292 Views
agreed darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 02:18:23 PM 1302 Views
Re: How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? damer - 01/01/2011 12:56:54 AM 1481 Views
Re: How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? Demortae - 01/01/2011 01:13:39 AM 1371 Views
She's just that good ˥ɐ ʎpu∀ɹ - 01/01/2011 01:48:26 AM 1378 Views
magic *NM* fistofpainx - 01/01/2011 08:17:16 PM 604 Views
Cyndane injured Alivia, yes, but Alivia fought Cyndane off. Heiko - 02/01/2011 12:36:12 AM 1401 Views
Re: Cyndane injured Alivia, yes, but Alivia fought Cyndane off. Voscaia Sedai - 02/01/2011 09:56:34 AM 1333 Views
Yup. Joel - 02/01/2011 03:12:39 PM 1291 Views
Small correction - It has not been established that Alivia is stronger than Cyndane unaided... Shannow - 02/01/2011 06:02:53 PM 1316 Views
Alivia has little experience fighting channellers, unlike Lanfear (most likely)... DomA - 03/01/2011 12:56:43 AM 1811 Views
I agree with you moratcorlm - 03/01/2011 01:08:35 AM 1344 Views
Demandred wasn't commenting on Cadsuane's paralis net, but on her little bird saidin detector... Shannow - 03/01/2011 07:01:08 AM 1408 Views
Where do you get this idea? *NM* moratcorlm - 03/01/2011 07:19:50 PM 715 Views
Well, he's definitely right he was commenting on one of the specific ter'angreal in her "net". DomA - 03/01/2011 10:51:09 PM 1367 Views
I'm thinking there are 2 items that break webs in different ways darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 07:51:46 PM 1327 Views
Very interesting point. I never noticed that before... Shannow - 05/01/2011 08:02:52 AM 1267 Views
Cadsuane has two types of weavebreakers... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2011 12:51:38 PM 1146 Views
inconclusive ... the ornament may be the same one she used to disrupt Semirhage darius_sedai - 05/01/2011 04:09:39 PM 1229 Views
I'm confused... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2011 06:15:06 PM 1224 Views
Why should Cadsuane's "distance" unraveler not also go cold at nearby channeling? Shannow - 05/01/2011 06:51:49 PM 1234 Views
I'd buy this. Myrdhyn - 05/01/2011 07:12:50 PM 1195 Views
Except Cyndane had never heard of a ter'angreal that can unravel weaves... Shannow - 05/01/2011 07:18:58 PM 1137 Views
Not necessarily. Myrdhyn - 05/01/2011 09:26:49 PM 1245 Views
I doubt it since LTT claims they created the "first" ones in the AOL darius_sedai - 08/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1167 Views
The first paralis nets, not necessarily the first weave breakers. Myrdhyn - 09/01/2011 09:53:56 PM 1229 Views
Maybe, but that's getting really convoluted darius_sedai - 10/01/2011 03:36:17 AM 1087 Views
Agreed Myrdhyn - 10/01/2011 05:14:45 PM 1190 Views
I don't remember if the AS Symbol was used prior to the AOL ... if so then it's possible *NM* darius_sedai - 10/01/2011 05:55:38 PM 647 Views
It would fit the various scenarios if she had 2 kinds ... darius_sedai - 05/01/2011 03:53:48 PM 1226 Views
Because Demandred said so... Shannow - 04/01/2011 07:28:56 AM 1286 Views
Re: Because Demandred said so... moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 08:45:38 AM 1326 Views
Well there you have it, then... Shannow - 04/01/2011 09:24:38 AM 1214 Views
Contortions moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 09:56:11 AM 8186 Views
If anyone made a mistake, it was Sanderson, not RJ. Shannow - 04/01/2011 10:07:30 AM 1181 Views
Re: If anyone made a mistake, it was Sanderson, not RJ. moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 10:35:45 AM 1386 Views
I don't think Rand is referring to the system as an indivisible whole. Shannow - 04/01/2011 10:45:24 AM 1338 Views
Besides, he knew of the Well from their previous visit to Far Madding... Shannow - 04/01/2011 11:18:39 AM 1309 Views
It's also possible that a Paralis Net is simply a name for any personal system darius_sedai - 04/01/2011 09:23:18 PM 1387 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/01/2011 07:08:19 PM 1239 Views
Re: Demandred wasn't commenting on Cadsuane's paralis net, but on her little bird saidin detector... DomA - 03/01/2011 10:01:00 PM 1308 Views
I cannot remember Semirhage's reference to a paralis net, but if she did do so, it is problematic... Shannow - 04/01/2011 07:31:24 AM 1251 Views
It's a throw-away line moratcorlm - 04/01/2011 08:48:25 AM 1357 Views
I had the opposite view of the WO Dreamwalkers vs the Wolves in the Wolf-dream RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/01/2011 05:07:56 PM 1327 Views
Agreed. Knowledge is power when it comes to channeling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/01/2011 10:26:37 PM 1217 Views
Re: Agreed. Knowledge is power when it comes to channeling. DomA - 03/01/2011 11:07:20 PM 1341 Views
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