About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
A Deathwatch Guard Send a noteboard - 15/01/2011 07:36:42 PM

I've been rereading the books (completely randomly and suddenly) and in The Dragon Reborn, when Egwene and Nynaeve learn of the te'angreal that the black ajah stole, among them is something Nynaeve says Mat would like. Five die connected together that have the power to change luck and probability.
Now, this may be a stretch, and I see no reason for this being true whatsoever... But it seems impossible that such a coincidence could occur. Mat is mentioned (jokingly, but isn't that how all foreshadowing is done in WoT?) and associated with the ter'angreal, and Mat's most frequent chapter icon is the picture of five die. And Mat's luck only appeared a little while after the ter'angreal theft was discovered.
As I said though, I don't know why Liandrin would do such a thing, or even how she could since Mat arrived long after she left... But even if this has nothing to do with Mat, it is still an interesting ter'angreal that I don't believe we have seen mentioned in any of the other books. What became of it? It seemed like a curious thing though, so I'm mentioning it here.
Now, this may be a stretch, and I see no reason for this being true whatsoever... But it seems impossible that such a coincidence could occur. Mat is mentioned (jokingly, but isn't that how all foreshadowing is done in WoT?) and associated with the ter'angreal, and Mat's most frequent chapter icon is the picture of five die. And Mat's luck only appeared a little while after the ter'angreal theft was discovered.
As I said though, I don't know why Liandrin would do such a thing, or even how she could since Mat arrived long after she left... But even if this has nothing to do with Mat, it is still an interesting ter'angreal that I don't believe we have seen mentioned in any of the other books. What became of it? It seemed like a curious thing though, so I'm mentioning it here.

Key to the final battle is in Matt's first "Lucky" incident.
15/01/2011 04:11:02 AM
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You think him taking the Dagger was lucky?
15/01/2011 09:39:01 AM
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I mean, if you take the long view...
15/01/2011 09:56:47 AM
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Re: I mean, if you take the long view...
19/01/2011 05:33:08 AM
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If you prefer, "The pattern working thru him" rather than "lucky"
20/01/2011 01:14:35 AM
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actually, his luck started much AFTER the dagger *NM*
15/01/2011 01:28:12 PM
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he was ta'veren even then so his luck was likely in place already
15/01/2011 04:47:42 PM
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Re: he was ta'veren even then so his luck was likely in place already
15/01/2011 04:49:55 PM
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Mat was lucky long before Rhuidean
15/01/2011 05:40:57 PM
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That's the first time we see it overtly. But there is nothing to say it wasn't there before
15/01/2011 07:45:56 PM
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Mat mentions during the books that
15/01/2011 07:46:04 PM
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Re: Mat mentions during the books that
16/01/2011 05:54:32 AM
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The Eye of the World
19/01/2011 05:38:47 AM
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About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
15/01/2011 07:36:42 PM
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Maybe it will come up in AMoL and be used against him?
16/01/2011 03:55:39 AM
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Not sure, but here's the excerpt
16/01/2011 04:08:23 AM
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The second seems much more likely, and in keeping with the series.
16/01/2011 06:05:20 AM
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I always figured that was a plot device
17/01/2011 12:01:23 AM
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No - Mat has always been lucky, winning more than losing.
17/01/2011 01:51:50 PM
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Re: About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
19/01/2011 11:21:25 AM
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Re: About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
19/01/2011 02:15:56 PM
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Re: About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
19/01/2011 08:39:42 PM
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From EoTW, the dream of the three figures, sword, dagger and wolf.
20/01/2011 01:20:15 AM
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