I think the argument that RJ is misogynistic because Rand has 3 GFs is more tenable.
Great Lord of Chaos Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 06:47:26 PM
I don't think RJ's a misogynist, btw.
OK.
By "mainstream", what do you mean? Goodkind? He is...liked, and is far more graphic than anything RJ wrote.
If we do ascribe to ratings, then it would be an R rated fantasy because of the blood and gore.
Hey, they got in bed with the DO, they shouldn't complain if he actually decides to sleep with them. The "good guys" kill the "bad guys". I don't recall an instance where they actually kill someone innocent.
When did the male Forsaken fail him? They're either dead, or haven't failed him.
(I reread Graendal's chapter yesterday and it was very upsetting - I did not remember what happened to her)
OK.
No offence but I think Robert Jordan (and most of his fans) was a misogynist. (Or he thought WoT can't compete mainstream fantasy anymore?)
By "mainstream", what do you mean? Goodkind? He is...liked, and is far more graphic than anything RJ wrote.
I talk about Shaidar Haran's "punishments". WoT is not an R rated fantasy, so it's really disturbing to read about rapes.
If we do ascribe to ratings, then it would be an R rated fantasy because of the blood and gore.
And what makes it worst: many reader claim that these rapes are "fair and square", because they are evil people. Define me this term, evil! Rand, Egwene, Perrin etc. are evil too, they are killed many innocent people, started wars etc.
Hey, they got in bed with the DO, they shouldn't complain if he actually decides to sleep with them. The "good guys" kill the "bad guys". I don't recall an instance where they actually kill someone innocent.
OK, let's say: they deserved it. But Shaidar Haran did not rape male Forsakens. So, where is the famous Jordan-balance?
When did the male Forsaken fail him? They're either dead, or haven't failed him.
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No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT
- 26/08/2011 02:12:46 PM
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Yes, I hate rape and I hate how it was used in this story.
- 26/08/2011 03:31:16 PM
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Missing the point...
- 26/08/2011 06:05:40 PM
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No, but maybe you are missing the point of what a good villain can do.
- 31/08/2011 05:48:47 PM
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The rapists are evil, and are presented as such in the books. Go soak your head.
- 26/08/2011 05:57:21 PM
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I think the argument that RJ is misogynistic because Rand has 3 GFs is more tenable.
- 26/08/2011 06:47:26 PM
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I think giving his hero 3 GFs more likely proves that RJ is a misandrist
- 26/08/2011 09:14:17 PM
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*NM*
Jordan was going to call the series "The Wheel of Rape" until Tor axed the idea. *NM*
- 31/08/2011 02:19:25 AM
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I know and there are not any elves or fairies *NM*
- 01/09/2011 03:03:53 PM
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No Fairies? Because there are enough of us who are reading the series! 
*NM*
- 01/09/2011 05:02:52 PM
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*NM*
- 01/09/2011 05:02:52 PM
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