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You are assigning your 21st century view onto people with totally different circumstances darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/02/2012 11:33:56 PM
First ... Elayne resorted to a method she knew the nobility of her land would accept. It's clear from the reaction that everyone involved with her decision to let the Borderlanders through on the authority of an AS that this was a legitimate authority. Much like Clergy of the 14-17th centuries in Europe who wielded immense political influence, the AS (right or wrong) have similar authority. There is no reason to believe her actions were treason since not a single person blinked at the action.

Second ... giving the Sea Folk land in Andor is nothing horrible. As she and Rand pointed out they will have to leave the compound at some point and Andor and Cairhien will eventually profit from it ... Both the Crown in terms of revenue and eventually the commerce of these lands by having ready access to new goods which formerly would have been less available. In addition local trade just got a shot in the arm from a transportation standpoint. The fastest means of mass transit just got a permanent stop which will significantly reduce the cost of shipping to the area. International commerce is a benefit to an economy such as Andor which undoubtably will have more exportable goods than weaker or less developed countries would have. Add to that a potential source of new materials and new industries become a reality.

As to her dropping everything and running to the Amyrlins Seat... Well, so did the rest of the worlds rulers. Again, look at this through the lens of the times they are more closely aligned too ... Few rulers in the 16th century would refuse a summons by the Pope, and the incestuous ties in families such as the Borgias or Hapsburgs ran deep. Elayne is a young ruler with personal ties to the Tower and a scandal to hide both in terms of her illegitimate children and her unorthodox ascension to her throne. Open defiance to the most powerful political organization in the land would be a bad decision under almost any circumstances. For the last 3,000+ years the Amlyrlin and the Tower have been THE definitive power in the land ... To the point where legitimacy as a ruler has been a problem to those the Tower became displeased with. Granted that power has declined significantly, but as a member of the Sisterhood herself she can't very well defy the power she professes to have a piece of herself. I agree that it is odd that Elayne has chosen to side against Rand, although I have a feeling the outcome won't be that dramatic, but her going to Merrilor seems normal enough given the situation. It is unfortunate that she is gone during the attack on Caemlyn, but there is no way she could have predicted the attack via a Waygate in her city.

The Two Rivers ... Actually Elayne and Andor are the last legitimate ruling body the Two Rivers have known. She has done nothing other than ensure them protection from her Throne via the vassal they chose for themselves. And in the meantime she extended legitimacy to The Dragon by elevating him to a powerful station within Andor and Cairhien. Certainly she gains from these situations, but so does everyone in her territory. She is the first ruler in centuries to bring stability and grow her national boundaries with a shot of maintaining the growth. The odds of a challenge coming from anyone other than the Seanchan (or the Shadow) are nil thanks to her ties to the Tower. She's clearly a skilled politician rather than a despot.

Sure she's making some questionable alliances ... Aka the Kin ... But as an AS and a ruler she is in a currently unique situation and has at least been discrete enough to ensure the Kin won't engage in operations that will be certain to bring the Tower down on everyone ... As an AS Elayne can easily claim that she is simply managing the group in the name of the Tower. Yes it's bull shit, but it's enough to discourage other rulers from following suit.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Bad Elayne! No biscuit! - 18/02/2012 10:13:54 PM 2366 Views
You are assigning your 21st century view onto people with totally different circumstances - 18/02/2012 11:33:56 PM 1067 Views
The Queen of Andor lost all authority over the Two Rivers when she failed to protect it. *NM* - 25/03/2012 02:53:23 PM 562 Views
Which is why they elected their own lord - 25/03/2012 06:25:31 PM 982 Views
Feudal law. - 25/03/2012 07:52:25 PM 1038 Views
Not quite... - 25/03/2012 08:34:49 PM 958 Views
All that, PLUS.. - 25/03/2012 09:55:26 PM 1178 Views
Re: Not quite... - 26/03/2012 03:53:46 PM 1333 Views
And she has not tried to exert authority over them - 25/03/2012 10:33:44 PM 1045 Views
Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book. - 18/02/2012 11:44:19 PM 1364 Views
No, you are not. - 19/02/2012 03:44:04 AM 1085 Views
Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book. - 20/02/2012 03:11:14 AM 1455 Views
Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book. - 20/02/2012 06:22:21 AM 981 Views
Failed to click "Edit" instead of "Reply". - 20/02/2012 06:23:18 AM 1082 Views
"Damn sister married the Pope instead of my chosen Lord Ohsoimportant" - 25/03/2012 03:50:06 PM 1121 Views
Nobles and Ishara's blood - 03/04/2012 02:59:03 PM 1022 Views
Okay, I admit it, there is no way I am reading such a long post about Elayne..... - 19/02/2012 08:14:53 PM 1035 Views
it was a bear to read but enlightening none the less. *NM* - 20/02/2012 08:49:35 AM 585 Views
The Caraline treatment. - 25/03/2012 02:41:12 PM 1004 Views
Do you Colavaer Saighan? I don't recall Caraline having her lands and titles stripped - 25/03/2012 10:44:57 PM 1044 Views
Yes, sorry about the mixup. Names sound the same. *NM* - 26/03/2012 02:52:18 PM 690 Views
Re: Bad Elayne! No biscuit! - 27/03/2012 07:39:05 PM 977 Views
Perrin is Rand's servant, so TR belongs to Rand *NM* *NM* - 12/04/2012 07:30:46 PM 764 Views

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