First of all, great question!
When I first read WoT, I was amazed by the intricacy of the plot and the detail of the world that went into it. You'll have to bear in mind that I picked WoT up with my only previous experience of fantasy novels being LotR. It's ground that's already been covered, but I do think WoT is very much a classic, and somewhat excellent, case of escapism.
There are some very obvious lessons (if that's what you want to call them) to be taken from WoT. Rand's journey being the most obvious, but you also have Mat growing up before our eyes, and the Aes Sedai getting their fingers burned by attempting to control what they don't understand. There are others, but you get the point I'm sure.
I actually just finished the Malazan novels, and it's fair to say that Erikson's whole 'Man vs Nature' debate that he has going on is far deeper and wide reaching, and it's a more deliberate attempt to convey a message. Personally, I liked it, and I could relate to it, but I thought there were times when he was trying a bit too hard to impress that message/debate upon the reader.
The other thing I would mention is that Jordan has (for the most part) very clear lines between good and evil. There are some characters (Verin) that we aren't sure about, but we generally get Rand and friends = good, and The Forsaken, trollocs, etc = bad. Even the people that we are unsure about are darkfriends, or... not. Erikson created a world where the lines between good and evil were far more blurry, and that in itself is a message, or a lesson.
I'd be interested to know actually if Erikson's overarching message was intended from the very start. It did appear to me that his 'war' between humanity and nature only really began in the second half of the series, at a time when the whole global warming/over-consumption debate came to the fore in society.
I've digressed a bit here, but for me WoT is largely about escapism, and that is something it does exceedingly well due to some excellent world building from Jordan. There are a few lessons in there to be had, but nothing which really hits you in the face and makes you think about things in a new light.
When I first read WoT, I was amazed by the intricacy of the plot and the detail of the world that went into it. You'll have to bear in mind that I picked WoT up with my only previous experience of fantasy novels being LotR. It's ground that's already been covered, but I do think WoT is very much a classic, and somewhat excellent, case of escapism.
There are some very obvious lessons (if that's what you want to call them) to be taken from WoT. Rand's journey being the most obvious, but you also have Mat growing up before our eyes, and the Aes Sedai getting their fingers burned by attempting to control what they don't understand. There are others, but you get the point I'm sure.
I actually just finished the Malazan novels, and it's fair to say that Erikson's whole 'Man vs Nature' debate that he has going on is far deeper and wide reaching, and it's a more deliberate attempt to convey a message. Personally, I liked it, and I could relate to it, but I thought there were times when he was trying a bit too hard to impress that message/debate upon the reader.
The other thing I would mention is that Jordan has (for the most part) very clear lines between good and evil. There are some characters (Verin) that we aren't sure about, but we generally get Rand and friends = good, and The Forsaken, trollocs, etc = bad. Even the people that we are unsure about are darkfriends, or... not. Erikson created a world where the lines between good and evil were far more blurry, and that in itself is a message, or a lesson.
I'd be interested to know actually if Erikson's overarching message was intended from the very start. It did appear to me that his 'war' between humanity and nature only really began in the second half of the series, at a time when the whole global warming/over-consumption debate came to the fore in society.
I've digressed a bit here, but for me WoT is largely about escapism, and that is something it does exceedingly well due to some excellent world building from Jordan. There are a few lessons in there to be had, but nothing which really hits you in the face and makes you think about things in a new light.
So when the book/series ends, what will it have all meant?
- 08/10/2012 09:47:49 PM
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HAHAHA!
- 08/10/2012 10:17:58 PM
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Yeah, the use of my time does matter
- 09/10/2012 02:45:15 AM
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- 09/10/2012 02:45:15 AM
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Not sure I'd call it mindless
- 09/10/2012 02:53:00 AM
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Well, it is a bit more complex than a D&D novel
- 09/10/2012 02:55:40 AM
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- 09/10/2012 02:55:40 AM
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I'm not really a huge fiction reader to begin with
- 09/10/2012 11:25:34 PM
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I've noticed that quite a few here/wotmania have not been big fiction (fantasy) readers
- 11/10/2012 05:48:02 AM
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Re: I've noticed that quite a few here/wotmania have not been big fiction (fantasy) readers
- 12/10/2012 05:11:20 PM
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Well... it's a bit late in the game...
- 09/10/2012 02:04:16 AM
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True, but it's never too late to ask people such questions
- 09/10/2012 02:49:28 AM
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I'm not sure...
- 09/10/2012 06:03:08 AM
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Well, we may be in closer agreement then
- 09/10/2012 06:43:50 PM
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There's a reason for this...
- 09/10/2012 02:11:21 AM
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True
- 09/10/2012 02:54:12 AM
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Re: True
- 09/10/2012 06:19:42 AM
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I am now visualizing WoT as a telenovela adaptation
- 09/10/2012 06:59:11 PM
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- 09/10/2012 06:59:11 PM
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everything about Lanfear screams TeleNovela!
- 11/10/2012 04:38:03 AM
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Por ella, soy Luisa Therin?
- 11/10/2012 05:44:32 AM
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- 11/10/2012 05:44:32 AM
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It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
- 09/10/2012 02:21:20 PM
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It also has Faulknerian allusions
- 09/10/2012 07:04:55 PM
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- 09/10/2012 07:04:55 PM
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BTW, did you see the Folio Society's color-coded The Sound and the Fury?
- 10/10/2012 08:06:18 PM
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Re: BTW, did you see the Folio Society's color-coded The Sound and the Fury?
- 10/10/2012 09:39:56 PM
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No, but I'll keep it in mind for the future when I have more money to spare
- 11/10/2012 05:49:52 AM
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It sold out fast. They might reprint it, though.
- 11/10/2012 03:45:20 PM
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Hopefully, that or it won't be more than $200 when I do have the money to spare
- 11/10/2012 05:53:20 PM
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Re: So when the book/series ends, what will it have all meant?
- 11/10/2012 10:52:01 AM
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Ah, where would we be without such bright lights like you around?
- 11/10/2012 05:59:48 PM
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It will have meant.. .
- 11/10/2012 06:59:43 PM
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So...
- 11/10/2012 07:05:41 PM
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For me, yes.
- 11/10/2012 07:45:25 PM
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I'm not sure there is too much meaning
- 15/10/2012 05:57:57 PM
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