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Somehow, I Actually Hate Faile MORE Now Joel Send a noteboard - 14/01/2013 12:16:05 PM
Everytime she is in mortal danger she miraculously escapes at the cost of a character I actually LIKE. With Rolan I could tolerate it a bit because he was a new and minor character, and his unrequited love (or at least desire) could really only go one way once Perrin showed up with his stupid knotted cord to rescue her. Raging protagonist vs. restrained minor character; not hard to anticipate how THAT conflict ends. Sure, that was what made me actively DISLIKE a character who had previously just been annoying (albeit from the very start,) but I could at least understand.

Then she and the rest of Perrins army (and that detestable F--KING AVATARs Knights Templar) were rescued from the dreamspike trap at the cost of Hopper dying AGAIN, this time PERMANENTLY; no rebirth, nothing: Just gone forever and irrevocably.

The final volume was the capper though: Faile "rescues" the Horn by carrying it into the Dark Ones backyard for Mat (who is not even there, as she well knows, and no longer bound to it anyway,) promptly losing it. On recovering the Horn, she entrusts it to a child sent off on sweet, underappreciated and overperforming little Bela, who has carried every helpless "hero" from danger since the series began, with each of them thinking her slow and useless every time. Standard Bela scene, like we have seen ever since Moiraine led her adolescent champions out of the Two Rivers in the first chapters of TEotW—except this time, after saying flat out Bela is faster than racehorses (yet having Olver complain at her one last time,) she is cut down in screaming agony and slaughtered by Trollocs. Faile, of course, is miraculously saved just before death when Perrin happens to find her dreaming her dying self into Tel'aran'rhiod (even though we are repeatedly told throughout the series normal humans rarely go there, and never for more than a few seconds.)

I will give Olver this: He at least shed a few tears and mourned Bela a nanosecond before our fierce fearless little warrior fled into a hole in the ground that offered no concealment since his pursuers could just follow the urine trail left in his wake. That is not much, but more than Siuan ever did (to be fair, she was already dead by then, too,) and Egwene rarely thinks of the sturdy long-suffering mare with whom she grew up and who saved her life just as assuredly as Siuans, Failes and Olvers. Saving Faile was, of course, Belas one fatal mistake, if inevitable in one so loyal. Hopper could have told her that much, except, of course, he never had the chance....

Seriously, did Jordan have any pets? That is, "beloved animal family members" not "vivisection subjects." Faile is like TWoT Wesley Crusher, except the writers not only refuse to kill arguably the least popular Lightsider, even when the narrative calls for it, they torture innocent, loyal and lovable animals to death in her place. By the end of the series I half expected an incidental mention of a passing random coach in the Two Rivers running over Scratch, then hearing the pathetic mewling and backing up to finish the job. When Farstrider appeared astride a horse to save Olver (who is pretty annoying in his own right, and thus inviolate) I faintly hoped it would somehow turn out to be a PONY bound to the Horn, but, no, screw that; she is just some stupid slow mare: Save the homely, lecherous and bratty Aiel-bigot.

At least it made some kind of sense with Hopper, a predator, but what kind of sadistic SOB keeps shoving Bela in front of Shadowspawn?

Really, torturing animals to death is how serial killers start; between this and Aginor I cannot help wondering what (or who) is in Jordans backyard.... (8
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This message last edited by Joel on 18/01/2013 at 06:09:16 PM
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Somehow, I Actually Hate Faile MORE Now - 14/01/2013 12:16:05 PM 2875 Views
Faile made Perrin less interesting - 14/01/2013 01:15:22 PM 958 Views
She paralyzed his character development even when Jordan thought she advanced it. - 14/01/2013 02:38:29 PM 1045 Views
I skipped those chapters during my re-read - 14/01/2013 10:36:11 PM 1170 Views
Re: She paralyzed his character development even when Jordan thought she advanced it. - 15/01/2013 12:39:23 AM 921 Views
You just hit on probably the major structural weakness of the series with respect to characters. - 15/01/2013 02:54:59 AM 900 Views
I think this is why I still enjoy Rand as a character so much - 15/01/2013 03:37:52 AM 865 Views
I'm glad you have seen the Truth. - 14/01/2013 01:35:36 PM 856 Views
It was neck and neck with her and Min for a long while, but Min finally saw past her own nose. - 14/01/2013 02:09:13 PM 843 Views
I just added a sentence at the end to make the series end properly. - 14/01/2013 10:47:18 PM 927 Views
Works for me. - 15/01/2013 06:13:16 AM 1880 Views
In all fairness Egwene did in fact pay homage to Bela - 14/01/2013 08:36:40 PM 821 Views
Bela has been there for Egwene all the time. - 14/01/2013 10:16:22 PM 1030 Views
Egwene and Bela - 15/01/2013 08:13:17 AM 795 Views
I thought Noal was riding Bela... *NM* - 14/01/2013 10:47:56 PM 437 Views
I did, too, at first, but "horse"=/="pony." - 15/01/2013 06:08:03 AM 753 Views
The real problem - 15/01/2013 11:30:37 AM 813 Views
The women in WoT are monsters - 15/01/2013 11:59:39 AM 1204 Views
I do not consider most of the others all that bad, just idiosyncratic. - 15/01/2013 03:05:51 PM 1058 Views
Oh...I think we know :-) *NM* - 16/01/2013 04:31:18 PM 524 Views
I try to give them, or rather her, the benefit of a doubt. - 16/01/2013 04:48:22 PM 756 Views
Re: Tuon - 15/01/2013 03:33:34 PM 984 Views
I had not noticed that before, but you are right. - 15/01/2013 07:45:53 PM 795 Views
I agree completely... - 15/01/2013 05:19:40 PM 1021 Views
Not to argue, but I think RJ created a world where women had the power - 20/01/2013 01:17:11 AM 880 Views
Agreed ... Nynaeve and Lan are the closest thing to "Healthy" in the series - 20/01/2013 01:09:29 AM 745 Views
Tell me then... - 18/01/2013 09:08:08 AM 803 Views
That's a fallacious question - 18/01/2013 03:21:56 PM 888 Views
Are you saying... - 18/01/2013 09:21:34 PM 802 Views
That is a pathetic answer. - 19/01/2013 04:56:13 AM 736 Views
You're a pathetic ass - 19/01/2013 06:48:47 AM 783 Views
LOL - that's funny, coming from you, one of the most pathetic fanboys around here. *NM* - 19/01/2013 02:32:18 PM 394 Views
Sad for you. *NM* - 19/01/2013 09:24:59 PM 426 Views
Oh, gosh, this could take a while. - 18/01/2013 05:58:15 PM 833 Views
How exactly was Faile the cause for Hopper's death? - 19/01/2013 12:31:55 AM 754 Views
Because her kidnapping was the reason Perrin led his hodge podge army to rescue her, and got trapped - 19/01/2013 01:00:26 AM 671 Views
Her kidnapping... - 19/01/2013 01:32:40 AM 702 Views
I said outright I do not fault her as a character for that (only Jordan for writing it that way. ) - 19/01/2013 07:35:57 PM 764 Views
No it wasn't ... The dreamspike plot would have happened even had she not been kidnapped - 20/01/2013 01:24:25 AM 701 Views
Exactly - 20/01/2013 06:59:33 PM 987 Views
Wow... - 19/01/2013 01:49:56 AM 799 Views
Culture is sometimes a reason, but never an excuse. - 19/01/2013 08:04:52 PM 814 Views
Just off color - 19/01/2013 10:03:58 PM 920 Views
? - 19/01/2013 10:44:28 PM 806 Views

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