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Nope.. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM
Technically he does burst free in the words of the text but it's hard to assume that would have happened if Rand hadn't, to quote the book, "pulled the Dark One into the Pattern". Also it is heavily implied pages beforehand that the DO cannot destroy the pattern or harm humanity unless they allow him to and his power is to break mankind and rely on others, which is why he needs his army of Dhadowspawn and Forsaken

As you said, the text clearly states the DO burst free. Now, if Rand hadn't been there to drag him in, the DO wouldn't have sent the entirety of himself into the Patter before destroying it, as he doesn't like being subject to time. That doesn't mean he wouldn't have been completely free to do as he wills.

And no, the Dark One doesn't need others to do his final act. He needs DFs and Foresaken to help free him. Once free, he doesn't need them, as he can destroy the Pattern, or remake it as he wills.
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So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... Cannoli - 10/01/2013 04:40:55 AM 3297 Views
Because, to quote the series... Great Lord of Chaos - 10/01/2013 05:01:51 AM 1701 Views
It's not so much about him not telling as cutting loved ones out of his life altogether *NM* Cannoli - 10/01/2013 05:47:14 AM 724 Views
I had hoped a lot more people would have died. standby - 30/01/2013 03:28:26 PM 1094 Views
Frankly, it seemed out of character. Ghavrel - 10/01/2013 05:08:48 AM 1470 Views
double post thanks to daughter *NM* *NM* gban007 - 10/01/2013 06:16:01 AM 557 Views
I could be wrong, but... gban007 - 10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM 1407 Views
Except... Cannoli - 10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM 1403 Views
Re: Except... gban007 - 10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM 1151 Views
That was my interpretation as well. I think it was an attempt at showing Rand's humility. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/01/2013 08:17:52 AM 750 Views
If the World finds out he's still alive IndigoAjahV2 - 10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM 1332 Views
I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. Cannoli - 10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM 1317 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. lilltempest - 10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM 1305 Views
Why Mat in particular? Zalvera - 10/01/2013 04:07:19 PM 1153 Views
Re: Why Mat in particular? lilltempest - 10/01/2013 04:20:37 PM 1258 Views
This is because I tend to assume the best in Rand IndigoAjahV2 - 10/01/2013 04:28:20 PM 1080 Views
I don't fault Rand for any of it, at the moment.... lilltempest - 10/01/2013 04:49:25 PM 1230 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. Cannoli - 11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM 1158 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. lilltempest - 13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM 1113 Views
I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her. Joel - 14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM 1256 Views
Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source. lilltempest - 14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM 1112 Views
Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent. Joel - 14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM 1056 Views
Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM 1245 Views
One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM 934 Views
Nope.. fionwe1987 - 15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM 1035 Views
Re: Nope.. IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 03:33:06 AM 1301 Views
The quote Shai'tan doesn't try and deny: IndigoAjah - 15/01/2013 09:41:24 PM 1065 Views
If that were the case Taim certainly would have smashed the seals right away Isaac - 15/01/2013 08:54:14 AM 1152 Views
From Egwenes insistence they NEVER be broken. Joel - 15/01/2013 07:26:36 AM 1232 Views
Agree 100%. Tam and Nynaeve deserve to know. Myrdhyn - 10/01/2013 05:47:04 PM 1132 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... DomA - 10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM 1456 Views
You don't think Nakomi did it? LoialT - 10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM 1751 Views
Maybe DomA - 10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM 1378 Views
Re: Maybe LoialT - 10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM 1245 Views
I thought it was largely believed that Nakomi is an avatar of the Creator. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/01/2013 11:19:43 PM 729 Views
It's one of the dominant theories, not sure it's the one favoured by the majority, but maybe *NM* DomA - 10/01/2013 11:55:46 PM 616 Views
Nope.. an agent of the Wheel DomA - 10/01/2013 11:53:54 PM 1335 Views
IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them Cannoli - 11/01/2013 02:38:33 AM 1201 Views
*NM* *NM* DomA - 11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM 545 Views
Re: IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them DomA - 11/01/2013 06:52:29 PM 1485 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... Dunstan - 11/01/2013 12:01:09 AM 982 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... AshaShan - 11/01/2013 07:45:26 AM 1023 Views
He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago IndigoAjahV2 - 11/01/2013 12:25:37 PM 1012 Views
Re: He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago AshaShan - 11/01/2013 10:39:33 PM 1033 Views
I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already Isaac - 12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM 1213 Views
Re: I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already Watcher - 12/01/2013 12:58:01 PM 1082 Views
I think you need to re-read that last section Isaac - 15/01/2013 09:19:41 AM 1141 Views
I agree. Rand carries a man out of SG who he didn't bring there- logic dictates he is Forsaken *NM* IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 12:44:18 PM 568 Views
That makes a great deal of sense. Joel - 15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM 1207 Views
Re: That makes a great deal of sense. Isaac - 15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM 1001 Views
It is something we just had to expect when Sanderson came in to finish the series. Joel - 15/01/2013 11:24:06 AM 980 Views
Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark. Joel - 14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM 1200 Views
I agree. Hell, he's still bonded to the women beetnemesis - 28/01/2013 03:42:47 PM 1055 Views
More the three sisters Knightscape - 20/01/2013 04:55:36 PM 942 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... muppet - 25/01/2013 03:53:05 PM 942 Views
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