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Nope.. fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM
Technically he does burst free in the words of the text but it's hard to assume that would have happened if Rand hadn't, to quote the book, "pulled the Dark One into the Pattern". Also it is heavily implied pages beforehand that the DO cannot destroy the pattern or harm humanity unless they allow him to and his power is to break mankind and rely on others, which is why he needs his army of Dhadowspawn and Forsaken

As you said, the text clearly states the DO burst free. Now, if Rand hadn't been there to drag him in, the DO wouldn't have sent the entirety of himself into the Patter before destroying it, as he doesn't like being subject to time. That doesn't mean he wouldn't have been completely free to do as he wills.

And no, the Dark One doesn't need others to do his final act. He needs DFs and Foresaken to help free him. Once free, he doesn't need them, as he can destroy the Pattern, or remake it as he wills.
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