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Re: A couple of points Sidious Send a noteboard - 01/10/2009 01:20:41 PM

This is Semirhage! You CANNOT, I REPEAT, CANNOT trust ANYTHING she says. I admit Rand is in sorry shape, but I think he is a long way from terminal madness. Just because Semi said such cases often result in terminal madness does not mean this is so. It may be that every case does, or 1 in 5, or 1 in 5,000, or 1 in 5 million, or none ever; we have no way of knowing.


Except we do. Lews Therin himself says that she rarely lies. From our experience with her i.e. her PoV's and Forsaken gatherings she doesn't lie. Semirhage has one unquestionably effective tactic, namely that the truth is horrific enough. As a sadist she doesn't gain anything by illusion and deception, like Graendal does. She gains results by verifiable pain that the victim is aware of. Like Ishamael, she enjoys the opportunity to tell Lews Therin that he's killed his whole family. The truth is bad enough - Rand is descending into madness, and she loves the effect and the realization it's having on his friends. Why would she lie when she can open their 'simple minds' and make them aware of the desperation of their own situation?
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Re: A couple of points Sidious - 01/10/2009 01:20:41 PM 1117 Views
She's a sadist, she's got every reason to lie to cause pain NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 03:38:20 PM 1074 Views
Agreed. *NM* Etzel - 01/10/2009 03:49:55 PM 399 Views
But she's not a moron Sidious - 01/10/2009 05:08:23 PM 1025 Views
She's not a moron, she's a Forsaken! NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 05:49:28 PM 957 Views
... who according to a truly good man, rarely lies Sidious - 01/10/2009 05:59:53 PM 977 Views
Still... Etzel - 01/10/2009 06:13:44 PM 896 Views
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I don't have an agenda NaClH2O - 01/10/2009 08:45:49 PM 960 Views
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Heck. She might even by playing Rand so that he starts hunting for Graendal. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/10/2009 12:28:47 AM 929 Views
That's a possibility NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 01:35:56 AM 879 Views
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Fireball? fionwe1987 - 02/10/2009 06:36:28 AM 896 Views
It was??? Like fionwe above, I must have missed that part NaClH2O - 02/10/2009 11:59:41 AM 880 Views
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I will never read WoT again! Thanks a lot, jerk! Darth_Katie - 01/10/2009 07:02:55 PM 888 Views
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