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Re: Was her not death not redemptive? Did she not admit Rand was right about the Seals? Dunstan Send a noteboard - 17/11/2013 02:36:21 PM

View original postthat he would have to sacrifice his life (even if in the end he didn't have to) to save the world,

Personally that's kind of missing the point of what drove him to the mountain, and what he had to come to peace with, at the end of TGS.

It wasn't "I'm going to die" it was "I'm going to die... And it wont change anything. I'll just be reborn to do it all over again, and again, and again.".

Honestly, Rand was one of the few, if not only, Third Ager who actual seemed to "get" what "The Lord Dragon Reborn" actually meant.

For everyone else their was at least a "chance" of a "happily ever after", and that their soul might be reborn in more peaceful times, but for Rand? It's always going to be "The End Of The World".

...Honestly, I always found it odd how no one seemed to get that when talking to him about TG. Like they thought the whole "born to fight the Dark One" was just a two time job for him.

Of course, turns out that the Pattern being all about "balance" means that every once in awhile, it's Chosen One gets turned into an immortal* God-like being.


*At least based on the idea that Nakomi is the same, and how old she'd have to be to be so. Though of course will die at some point, as this is "the Wheel of Time" after all. And man is that likely to be one hell of a LB.

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I Would Like It Noted for the Record I Was Right on Egwenes Fate/Progression; Twice, Actually Joel - 28/08/2013 11:41:11 PM 2117 Views
And I was wrong ßelals Girl - 29/08/2013 05:41:36 AM 1038 Views
I read somewhere one should hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Joel - 29/08/2013 10:18:18 AM 1146 Views
Gawyn matured? Fanatic-Templar - 30/08/2013 05:05:11 AM 918 Views
Yes; he grew beyond "I can ignore the rules and everyone must obey me because I know best." Joel - 30/08/2013 06:18:22 AM 1086 Views
Because that's clearly Egwene's job, and there wasn't room for two of them in that relationship *NM* ßelals Girl - 30/08/2013 02:01:53 PM 491 Views
Essentially; maybe he did not so much mature as bow to the absurd. Joel - 30/08/2013 03:35:51 PM 960 Views
That was never an issue. Fanatic-Templar - 30/08/2013 05:19:43 PM 1170 Views
I cannot decide whether I agree or not. Joel - 02/09/2013 05:47:39 AM 1078 Views
And his character...development, for lack of a better word...in ToM appeared forgotten in aMoL Cannoli - 05/09/2013 01:01:06 AM 1026 Views
Maybe death was a release from having to carry self-important harridans on their quests for power Cannoli - 05/09/2013 01:10:41 AM 1049 Views
Maybe Joel - 05/09/2013 01:39:10 AM 1015 Views
That's one opinion... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2013 06:06:15 PM 1000 Views
Her death is a matter of fact, or fictional fact anyway. Joel - 04/09/2013 09:25:30 PM 958 Views
That wasn't what you predicted, though... fionwe1987 - 05/09/2013 02:49:06 AM 949 Views
Was her death not redemptive? Did she not admit Rand was right about the Seals? Joel - 05/09/2013 04:02:09 AM 927 Views
Re: Was her not death not redemptive? Did she not admit Rand was right about the Seals? gban007 - 08/09/2013 05:14:32 AM 1336 Views
Re: Was her not death not redemptive? Did she not admit Rand was right about the Seals? Dunstan - 17/11/2013 02:36:21 PM 1064 Views
Re: Was her not death not redemptive? Did she not admit Rand was right about the Seals? gban007 - 19/11/2013 02:25:14 AM 932 Views
Wow, you predicted a plot progression in a predictable and completely worthless series of books. Tom - 05/09/2013 04:08:38 AM 928 Views
Doubtless his middle school English teacher would be proud. *NM* Larry - 05/09/2013 04:11:12 AM 917 Views
Hey, c'mon, without the The Wheel of Time ya'll could not be here gracing us with your erudition. Joel - 05/09/2013 04:41:46 AM 868 Views
Y'all, Texan, y'all. Not a badly constructed contraction of "you will". Sheesh. Larry - 05/09/2013 05:01:19 AM 1340 Views
Numerous sources attest to "ya'll" in both Faulkner and Hemingway. Joel - 05/09/2013 05:36:31 AM 998 Views
Yes, and Faulkner in particular was known for his non-orthodox orthography Larry - 05/09/2013 07:17:47 AM 1454 Views
"Non-orthodox" is a somewhat unorthodox spelling as well; does that invalidate it? Joel - 05/09/2013 11:05:57 PM 1421 Views
No, that was a late night spelling mistake - unorthodox is what I meant Larry - 07/09/2013 08:42:12 AM 1643 Views
It is not worthless, and that particular progression was not predictable enough for anyone else. Joel - 05/09/2013 04:34:11 AM 944 Views
I recall not caring about camps, or Jordan generally. Tom - 05/09/2013 03:06:43 PM 892 Views
Yet here we are. Joel - 05/09/2013 10:56:31 PM 1062 Views
I just check this board in hopes there will be an announcement that it will be closed. *NM* Tom - 07/09/2013 02:16:12 AM 453 Views
Same here, except it applies to the rest of the site as well. *NM* Larry - 07/09/2013 08:42:41 AM 809 Views
Pretty edgy for a Bush League Pedant. Dan - 14/09/2013 02:04:32 PM 1135 Views
Nah, I cannot quite be the asshole to your santorum, alas! Larry - 14/09/2013 06:02:41 PM 1429 Views
Ha! Dan - 22/09/2013 02:25:18 AM 1015 Views
Re: I Would Like It Noted for the Record I Was Right on Egwenes Fate/Progression; Twice, Actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/10/2013 05:03:59 PM 1015 Views
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