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Re: So...who is Demandred disguised as and who do you think killed Asmodean NOW? Jim Send a noteboard - 02/11/2009 08:59:05 PM
My own thoughts:

1. Demandred is a Seanchan general. I arrived at this unscientific conclusion based on the fact that he, Mesaana and Semirhage had a plot together, according to Graendal. Semirhage used to be in Seanchan, Mesaana was in the Tower. Despite Semirhage having been captured and balefired, the Black Ajah STILL knew of the HIGHLY SECRET Seanchan raid ahead of time and managed to escape. This points to Mesaana's surviving co-conspirator, Demandred, being in Seanchan. Furthermore, Demandred claimed to have an army (and liked commanding them), but Graendal (discounting the Seanchan for some reason) couldn't think of any armies big enough left in the world other than the Borderlanders.


The BA didn't flee the Tower until after the raid. In fact they didn't leave until after Egwene purged the rebels. It seems pretty obvious that Mesaana, or one of the BA like Alviarin who knew everyone, found out that the rebels had found and executed most of the BA in their camp. Also, it seems highly unlikely that the Shadow would have two Forsaken managing one group of people, especially given how high up Semi was placed, there'd be no need for another Forsaken with the Seanchan. Other possibilities would include Murandy which was just united with help from the Band.

It fits that he is commanding armies of Seanchan.

2. Asmodean was killed by Lanfear. She might not even have been Cyndane yet when she did it. She had just fallen into the realm of the Eelfinn and was granted three wishes if she agreed to pay the price. She probably agreed, with one of the wishes being to kill Asmodean, at which point she probably was given temporary access to Caemlyn to kill him.


According to RJ the Eelfinn can't affect things in the real world, there's no way she got out and was then pulled back in. Therefore there's no way Lanfear is the killer since she was held, and presumably killed, by the Eelfinn. Also, given the Finn's feelings about the Shadow it seems unlikely that they would give her any wishes, regardless of the price.

That's not a new position, but I do agree that Graendal's POV seemed to indicate she hadn't really done much for the Shadow and if she had killed Asmodean, she would have thought about it.


I don't see why she would think about Asmo at any point in her POV in tGS.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
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So...who is Demandred disguised as and who do you think killed Asmodean NOW? Tom - 02/11/2009 07:03:38 PM 3512 Views
Hmm TaskmasterJack - 02/11/2009 08:34:40 PM 1396 Views
I think that Graendal did it. Why? Rand al'Thor - 02/11/2009 10:24:13 PM 1387 Views
Re: I think that Graendal did it. Why? TaskmasterJack - 02/11/2009 11:55:56 PM 1274 Views
Considering that the Forsaken attend meetings together... Light in the Night - 03/11/2009 12:18:05 AM 1182 Views
Re: So...who is Demandred disguised as and who do you think killed Asmodean NOW? Jim - 02/11/2009 08:59:05 PM 1469 Views
Re: So...who is Demandred disguised as and who do you think killed Asmodean NOW? Curie - 03/11/2009 12:25:10 AM 1177 Views
Re: So...who is Demandred disguised as and who do you think killed Asmodean NOW? Mat_Cauthon33 - 03/11/2009 02:38:03 AM 1385 Views
After 2nd thought.... I can easily see Demandred's troops being in Seanchan Matrimony Cauthon - 03/11/2009 02:36:22 AM 1259 Views
I don't think so Sidious - 03/11/2009 04:14:25 AM 1276 Views
Well, it definitely is a wildcard theory Matrimony Cauthon - 03/11/2009 07:01:37 AM 1221 Views
Demandred's in Shara Monkey - 03/11/2009 07:32:25 AM 1460 Views
I think Shara is pretty much irrelevant to the series. Tom - 03/11/2009 01:43:59 PM 1133 Views
Murandy seems the best guess for Demandred... Etzel - 03/11/2009 10:10:54 AM 1269 Views
Re: Murandy seems the best guess for Demandred... Light in the Night - 03/11/2009 10:33:51 AM 2306 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 03/11/2009 10:50:05 AM 1208 Views
Re: Yeah... Sidious - 03/11/2009 12:36:18 PM 1190 Views
Re: Yeah... Etzel - 03/11/2009 01:43:17 PM 1180 Views
Hmmm.... Light in the Night - 04/11/2009 10:45:01 AM 1157 Views
Indeed Sidious - 04/11/2009 11:05:18 AM 1211 Views
Graendal is one of those Forsaken... Etzel - 04/11/2009 11:50:20 AM 1129 Views
What? Sidious - 05/11/2009 07:23:40 AM 1075 Views
Graendal... Etzel - 05/11/2009 09:59:53 AM 1490 Views
Re: Graendal... Sidious - 05/11/2009 02:52:49 PM 1170 Views
Re: Graendal's last POV TaskmasterJack - 05/11/2009 03:59:44 PM 1076 Views
Re: Graendal's last POV darius_sedai - 08/12/2009 05:06:52 AM 978 Views
Hmmm again.... Light in the Night - 04/11/2009 12:05:42 PM 1186 Views
Sidious - 05/11/2009 02:53:54 PM 989 Views
Murandy is a tiny, worthless nation Tom - 03/11/2009 01:46:28 PM 1586 Views
I think... Etzel - 03/11/2009 03:02:03 PM 1195 Views
Re: I think... Sidious - 03/11/2009 03:47:19 PM 1121 Views
Re: I think... Etzel - 03/11/2009 04:19:54 PM 1078 Views
Katerine was still there at the time of the Seanchan attack Daughter-Heir - 03/11/2009 03:03:53 PM 1126 Views
Well... Etzel - 03/11/2009 03:25:13 PM 1270 Views
Re: So...who is Demandred disguised as and who do you think killed Asmodean NOW? HyogaRott - 03/11/2009 03:41:14 PM 1245 Views
Re: So...who is Demandred disguised as and who do you think killed Asmodean NOW? Sidious - 03/11/2009 03:49:34 PM 1228 Views
Hmmm. Don't care about either answer lol! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/11/2009 08:48:12 PM 1128 Views
Demandred uses proxies Lord Haart - 22/11/2009 01:09:40 PM 1158 Views
Don't forget that Demandred could be controlling the 200K borderlanders. *NM* Logain - 09/11/2009 02:53:08 PM 557 Views
Very doubtful... Etzel - 09/11/2009 03:27:49 PM 1072 Views
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