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Graendal... Etzel Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 09:59:53 AM
Who inspire almost no fear at all. The other Forsaken, Rand and others like Brigitte just remark that she is a clever manipulator. But no one fears her, like Demandred or Semirhage for example. And that is precisely what Graendal wants by her flamboyant and over the top behaviour & appearance.

What! She inspires a great deal of fear. The Forsaken portray her as the deadliest of enemies who hides behind a veil of hedonism. When she snarls at Lanfear in FoH, Rahvin actually gets scared and prepares to Travel. When she threatens to kill Sammael, Moridin tenses and even Sammael gets affronted.


She is just indirectly dangerous, through her manipulations. If you confront her, she runs. Besides that, also Sammael and Moridin managed to outsmart her.

Asmo's reaction doesn't fit at all with seeing Graendal. And that Graendal would confront Asmo and immediately kill him, also doesn't fit at all with what we know about her: Graendal wouldn't risk to go to Caemlyn in the first place, and if she went their, only with a disguise, and if she met Asmo, she would use Compulsion on him to gather informations or use him as a tool, not kill him.

She would indeed risk it - she's been all over the place. We know that she's been to Shara and the White Tower, and she's adept at Illusion and disguise. She could easily kill him - she's considered killing Sammael on the spot twice, even from her own PoV. Why would Graendal toy with Compulsion if she suddenly came face to face with a male Forsaken who recognised her as an enemy? She's be a shocked as him, and would instantly lash out.


She obviously didn't use a disguise in the Caemlyn Palace, though, which makes no sense and is in conflict with your argument that she is an adept at it.

Plus, when Graendal thought that Moghedien and Cyndane would suddenly attack her in PoD, she is shocked as well, but immediately uses Compulsion.

But it's anyway moot, because TGS made even more clear that Graendal wasn't Asmo's killer. Otherwise BS could have revealed it in her last PoV.

I can't believe you think that. It's as if the only way he could reveal the assassination would be from the killer's own mouth.


The only powerful way to reveal the most discussed mystery in the history of the series would be to let the killer reveal it. You can't seriously think that BS would e.g. Moridin casually tell another Forsaken: "By the way, I never told that before, but actually Graendal killed Asmo a year ago", if BS was able to let Graendal reveal it and the circumstances herself in TGS.
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Hmmm. Don't care about either answer lol! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/11/2009 08:48:12 PM 910 Views
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