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I think she escaped, but it says something that he had to become worse than a Forsaken to do it RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 06:10:08 PM
The main thing that struck me, and I hope others as well, was that what Rand did was sheer horror magnified - he burnt two hundred innocent beings out of the Pattern, never to be Reborn to try and annihilate Graendal. He may have even succeeded. But in order to do it, he used a weave that the Aes Sedai AND the Forsaken of the Age of Legends stopped using because mass scale atrocities such as this were running the threat of unravelling the Pattern - there was no mutual agreement; both sides just knew that the Pattern would fall apart and the use of balefire on such a scale ceased on an individual level.

In a way, this is an atrocity on a scale far outstripping anything any Forsaken has done or anything that has happened during the series, including the mass suicide of the Amayar, because the souls of Graend's servants would have, in the normal fullness of time, been Reborn without the Compulsion to lead a new life on the Wheel. Rand ended that for them. All because he wanted to become inhuman in order to exceed the capabilities of the Forsaken.

In my opinion, and I have a few theories and ideas circulating on this matter, that she received word of his degenerating state and wasn't even in that palace. There are far too many ways to maintain and cease holding a weave, and by extension far too many holes in the "she was in the palace and he balefired the palace" theory.

P.S. This is actually a section that I think BS had to write very differently from how RJ would have, because every indication before this was that while people could vanish by being hit with Balefire, a Balefire stream only carved sections out of inanimate objects. IMO RJ originally mant for Rand to walk towards the palace and start balefiring everyone and everything indiscriminately.
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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM 2005 Views
It has definitely been hinted - 05/11/2009 08:37:04 AM 1056 Views
Graendal wasn't that deadly... - 05/11/2009 09:37:24 AM 1093 Views
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This whole Graendal is alive-idea - 05/11/2009 07:13:16 PM 985 Views
I'm divided on it.. - 05/11/2009 07:19:07 PM 918 Views
Here's the deal, though. Semirhage actions actually followed part of the theory to a tee. - 05/11/2009 07:21:21 PM 945 Views
Ah, anyway... - 05/11/2009 07:58:05 PM 848 Views
I agree with you - 05/11/2009 07:32:39 PM 951 Views
Exactly. - 05/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 1170 Views
I just don't understand the logic here - 05/11/2009 07:25:20 PM 990 Views
It's quite simple logic. - 05/11/2009 08:05:15 PM 1031 Views
Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 09:41:53 PM 904 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 10:58:01 PM 865 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 11:58:24 PM 973 Views
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It is a possibility. - 06/11/2009 03:43:22 AM 882 Views
Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 04:23:23 AM 997 Views
Some points no one addressed, a.k.a. Graendal lured Rand in... - 06/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 971 Views
Still no answers. I think I'm correct in feeling she is alive. *NM* - 06/11/2009 09:25:47 PM 372 Views
Re: Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 02:34:54 PM 954 Views
But... - 06/11/2009 02:56:32 PM 907 Views
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She's definitely the deadiest - 05/11/2009 02:05:23 PM 980 Views
I think she escaped, but it says something that he had to become worse than a Forsaken to do it - 05/11/2009 06:10:08 PM 916 Views
Eventually they will be reborn... - 05/11/2009 06:30:45 PM 816 Views
Thanks for reminding me. Oh well, then I'm stuck with the whole tearing apart the Pattern thing - 05/11/2009 06:44:35 PM 865 Views
Moiraine says. - 05/11/2009 07:02:10 PM 905 Views
In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:14:44 PM 900 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:35:18 PM 985 Views
From what I keep hearing - 05/11/2009 08:58:57 PM 900 Views
I could well believe it - 05/11/2009 11:03:40 PM 864 Views
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I conceed to Rand's point - 05/11/2009 06:31:38 PM 980 Views
I don't think it's acceptable to tear apart the Pattern to save it. - 05/11/2009 06:40:22 PM 797 Views
True... - 05/11/2009 06:57:24 PM 845 Views
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I always thought she was the most dangerous of the chicks. - 06/11/2009 04:28:43 AM 998 Views
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meh - 19/12/2009 11:56:12 PM 775 Views

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