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The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels) BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 08:07:50 PM
Two things come to mind, that I don't think the Rebels/Egwenists/War Hawks can defend.

1. Did Egwene and the Rebels cause Elaida's downfall?

2. Did Egwene and the Rebels expedite Elaida's downfall?

I don't see any way that anyone can truthfully answer "yes" to either question.

For 1) I think it is is a mix of Elaida's own undoing and ultimately the Seanchan death blow.
For 2) there is nothing. Nothing that Egwene and the Rebels did caused sped up the process in any way.

So... what exactly did the whole side-plot accomplish? Even if Egwene and the Rebels had just went along and conceded, Elaida would still have been captured in her sleep, at exactly the same moment.

Seems like a rather lengthy aside to to put a specific person (Egwene) on the Amyrlin's Seat.
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The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels) - 19/11/2009 08:07:50 PM 1405 Views
The Pattern "willed" it. - 19/11/2009 08:18:56 PM 771 Views
Well, yeah. I agree with that. *NM* - 19/11/2009 08:22:34 PM 611 Views
I don't really agree. - 19/11/2009 08:22:20 PM 1483 Views
What I'm saying is - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 684 Views
Not really, no. - 19/11/2009 09:02:29 PM 773 Views
Yet - 19/11/2009 08:33:23 PM 679 Views
Re: Yet - 19/11/2009 08:35:37 PM 692 Views
Re: Yet - 29/11/2009 06:56:40 AM 629 Views
I take it that was a reply to BlackAdder... *NM* - 19/11/2009 09:04:32 PM 302 Views
Assume there was no Rebellion - 19/11/2009 10:06:28 PM 773 Views
Right. Even if that does not answer his question. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:11:21 PM 254 Views
Sorry, I forgot to address that... - 19/11/2009 10:20:57 PM 711 Views
Re: Assume there was no Rebellion - 29/11/2009 06:12:00 AM 620 Views
Couldn't be more wrong - delete this evidence-less thread - 21/11/2009 06:36:35 PM 662 Views
OK...? - 21/11/2009 10:16:43 PM 630 Views
You made the assertion, it's not my responsibility to disprove you, - 22/11/2009 04:35:14 PM 636 Views
Re: The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels) - 01/12/2009 01:42:13 AM 805 Views
Re: The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels) - 01/12/2009 01:43:19 AM 703 Views
Wow... - 01/12/2009 11:37:27 PM 657 Views
Egwene could've done most of what she did without screentime. *NM* - 19/12/2009 07:30:14 PM 257 Views

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