I had beating a dead horse, but I have never been able to toally let the Lanfear killing Asmo theory die.
Tamyrlin's conversation possibly gives us some more fuel for this theory.
Let us re-examine the Lanfear scenario. It appears from this conversation that Lanfear may have already been granted her 3 gifts from the Finns. Brandon never confirmed anything, but he did tell us that the Finns grant their gifts based on the massive repository of One Power items that they have there.
Since Sanderson confirmed that no Dark One 'shennanigans' had been involved with Lanfear's One Power strength, we can assume that Lanfear had somehow lost some of her ability after her visit in Finnland. The most likely and obvious scenario, is that after Lanfear was killed she lost the angreal that the Finns had bequeathed to her during her original AoL visit to Finnland.
Two of the possible (but not confirmed) gifts to Lanfear appear to have been greater power (via angreal supplementation) and greater beauty (as Sanderson confirmed it is possible to enhance physical beauty via the usage of a ter'angreal).
More importantly, if we follow this train of assumptions we can make one more assumption. Lanfear didn't have any wishes left to be granted when she went through the twisted red-stone ter'angreal with Mat . This means that Lanfear had absolutely no bargaining power with the Finns!
If Lanfear had no bargaining power with the Finns, then this explains why Lanfear was held for a time by the Finns. Lanfear probably also realized that she was never going to escape. To me, this means that Lanfear either committed suicide so that she could be re-incarnated by the DO, or she was killed by the Finns.
Most importantly, following this train of assumptions (or trainwreck of assumptions if I am wrong) then this means Lanfear had no possible method to kill Asmodean. She was totally trapped by the Finns with no means of escape.
Tamyrlin's conversation possibly gives us some more fuel for this theory.
Let us re-examine the Lanfear scenario. It appears from this conversation that Lanfear may have already been granted her 3 gifts from the Finns. Brandon never confirmed anything, but he did tell us that the Finns grant their gifts based on the massive repository of One Power items that they have there.
Since Sanderson confirmed that no Dark One 'shennanigans' had been involved with Lanfear's One Power strength, we can assume that Lanfear had somehow lost some of her ability after her visit in Finnland. The most likely and obvious scenario, is that after Lanfear was killed she lost the angreal that the Finns had bequeathed to her during her original AoL visit to Finnland.
Two of the possible (but not confirmed) gifts to Lanfear appear to have been greater power (via angreal supplementation) and greater beauty (as Sanderson confirmed it is possible to enhance physical beauty via the usage of a ter'angreal).
More importantly, if we follow this train of assumptions we can make one more assumption. Lanfear didn't have any wishes left to be granted when she went through the twisted red-stone ter'angreal with Mat . This means that Lanfear had absolutely no bargaining power with the Finns!
If Lanfear had no bargaining power with the Finns, then this explains why Lanfear was held for a time by the Finns. Lanfear probably also realized that she was never going to escape. To me, this means that Lanfear either committed suicide so that she could be re-incarnated by the DO, or she was killed by the Finns.
Most importantly, following this train of assumptions (or trainwreck of assumptions if I am wrong) then this means Lanfear had no possible method to kill Asmodean. She was totally trapped by the Finns with no means of escape.
I love beating this dead horse and you made me consider the Finns. I created a post back at Theoryland: http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2724. In essence, what if Lanfear made the request but the Finns fulfilled it using an assortment of ter'angreal?
Some interesting new RAFOs and information from BS
- 23/11/2009 12:13:37 PM
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Thanks! I hadn't made the connection between Rand's paranoya and the dagger wound. *NM*
- 23/11/2009 12:50:42 PM
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Yes, and apparently...
- 23/11/2009 02:35:12 PM
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I tried to suggest that Elaida had been corrupted by Fain and I was practically ridiculed
- 23/11/2009 06:29:48 PM
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me too
- 23/11/2009 06:33:23 PM
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Re: me too
- 23/11/2009 06:43:40 PM
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Thank you.... I have a feeling that we haven't see the last of Elaida after Brandon's recent comment
- 23/11/2009 07:33:24 PM
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Yeah, good work... I tried to find that thread but I couldn't... it must have been on wotmania *NM*
- 23/11/2009 07:39:21 PM
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Very interesting, but they wasted a lot of time on questions they knew would be RAFO.
- 23/11/2009 02:17:47 PM
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I think, though...
- 23/11/2009 02:33:29 PM
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He seems to indicate that RAFO doesn't necessarily mean we'll ever get an answer, though.
- 23/11/2009 03:43:26 PM
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Nice answers on Cyndane
- 23/11/2009 04:06:20 PM
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Maybe...
- 23/11/2009 04:27:44 PM
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Less capable body...interesting.
- 23/11/2009 05:11:16 PM
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This idea originated...
- 23/11/2009 05:43:21 PM
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Yes, I've often pondered on the body size and One Power strength link...
- 23/11/2009 05:51:07 PM
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The rule is certainly...
- 23/11/2009 06:01:41 PM
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I like that idea...and I've explored it before...
- 23/11/2009 06:07:29 PM
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Re: Yes, I've often pondered on the body size and One Power strength link...
- 23/11/2009 06:08:04 PM
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I like the Padan Fain questions. Also, Lanfear / Cyndane discussion was exciting.
- 23/11/2009 05:12:14 PM
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Lanfear/Cyndane angreal
- 23/11/2009 05:17:35 PM
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The Lanfear/Cyndane stuff is at least good - a few theories killed here
- 23/11/2009 05:20:47 PM
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I'm convinced Moiraine's going to enjoy a Gandalf effect with her strength...
- 23/11/2009 05:49:07 PM
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I'm also entertaining that idea
- 23/11/2009 06:23:30 PM
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Hmm, but how?
- 23/11/2009 06:26:00 PM
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I'm not going to argue the theory, but, Moiraine won't give a crap about deference after her ordeal. *NM*
- 23/11/2009 09:13:30 PM
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Says who?
- 24/11/2009 07:02:30 AM
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Moiraine has always been somewhat of a rebel, and what you say is sort of in agreement
- 24/11/2009 07:55:16 AM
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This would be... funny. And Mat already said he'd probably save Lanfear
*NM*
- 23/11/2009 09:12:46 PM
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*NM*
- 23/11/2009 09:12:46 PM
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That makes one wonder...
- 23/11/2009 11:57:55 PM
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Indeed...
- 23/11/2009 06:06:23 PM
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The Likelihood, if she had been stilled
- 23/11/2009 06:12:55 PM
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Re: The Likelihood, if she had been stilled
- 23/11/2009 06:15:43 PM
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If stilling is Healed, you come back at about 1/3rd of your former strength...
- 23/11/2009 06:18:20 PM
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Not ot mention, that's only if you're healed by someone of the same gender. *NM*
- 23/11/2009 08:44:14 PM
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But...
- 23/11/2009 06:22:43 PM
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Re: But...
- 23/11/2009 06:33:41 PM
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Ok, the difference between stilling and burning out could be his loophole
- 23/11/2009 06:42:39 PM
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Re: Ok, the difference between stilling and burning out could be his loophole
- 23/11/2009 06:50:05 PM
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But if we assume...
- 23/11/2009 07:06:32 PM
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It seems that Lanfear may have been excluded as a candidate for killing Asmodean
- 23/11/2009 08:02:48 PM
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The Finns Killed Asmodean?
- 23/11/2009 08:39:08 PM
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I don't think is beyond the realm of possibility, but did Lanfear actually have any wishes left?
- 23/11/2009 08:53:38 PM
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I don't think is beyond the realm of possibility, but did Lanfear actually have any wishes left?
- 23/11/2009 08:53:38 PM
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Maybe that's what they meant by all of those "Interventions" they wanted me to attend...
- 23/11/2009 09:14:22 PM
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And some other counter-arguments
- 23/11/2009 09:12:18 PM
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This may also explain how the Finns hung Mat from the Tree of Life
- 23/11/2009 08:04:32 PM
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