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Re: but TaskmasterJack Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM
Unfortunately the story didn't go exactly like Semirhage wanted - she expected torture and pain, but was only given humiliation and cheap interrogation, that eventually broke her. Later however, I think she fully lived up to her legend as the Lady of Pain. Rand was completely broken by her skills. She was by far more sadistic than any of the Chosen have ever been, and she even did it with saidin and physical force - imagine if she'd used her natural abilities.

If you know in your bones that you're that person, does one episode of spanking send you scrambling across the floor to retrieve the beans? I like the scene with Rand. It was exciting and tense. But I do not like the scene with Cadsuane, even though I did think it was unexpected (for me) and mildly amusing.


I agree. I liked Cadsuane's solution, but I would have been content with her simply shoving Semirhage face-first into the beans, rather than Semirhage actually breaking down and doing as Cadsuane said. Ideally, Cadsuane would get to humiliate Semirhage with the spanking and beans treatment, but Semirhage wouldn't truly be broken, only shamed and pissed.
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 2029 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 1273 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 618 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 1232 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 1232 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 1102 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 1268 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 566 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 1200 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 1216 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1605 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 1150 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 1170 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 1286 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 1200 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 1334 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 1165 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 1206 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 1141 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 1190 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 1018 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 1119 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 1183 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1299 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 1196 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 1081 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 555 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 1152 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 1116 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 581 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 1068 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 1152 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 1158 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 1149 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 1057 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 1111 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 1196 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 1221 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 1172 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 1069 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 1124 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 1184 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 1217 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 1130 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 1155 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 1014 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 1136 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 1163 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 1042 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 1080 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 1269 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 1162 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 1177 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 1117 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 493 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 1165 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 1078 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 1185 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 607 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 1280 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 1084 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 1277 Views
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