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I was mostly kidding. Gher Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM
I didn't mean why rename her at all ... I meant why specifically give her a name that is essentially "Suffer" if she wasn't going to be paying for bad behavior


Well, it could be a giant penance to put her in her place. I don't think the a'dam, sul'dam, and damane concept will survive the end of the series (though I think it's a good solution for criminals and BA, but doubt it will be used as such), so unless Suffa dies in the next two books, she'll be freed eventually. Perhaps she comes out of it a broken woman, perhaps just humbled.
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How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM 1157 Views
Knowing Elaida's ego Etzel - 16/12/2009 03:30:38 PM 715 Views
Re: Knowing Elaida's ego BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 03:54:28 PM 683 Views
Not long DomA - 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM 821 Views
I disagree with the Asha'man part darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM 734 Views
You misinterpreted me DomA - 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM 719 Views
OH! I see now what you meant *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:09:13 AM 386 Views
That could be ironic ajfurst - 17/12/2009 06:27:36 AM 582 Views
Re: That could be ironic DomA - 17/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 628 Views
I'd like to see Tuon do something that helps the good guys Logain - 17/12/2009 05:07:07 PM 608 Views
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM 638 Views
I doubt it darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM 715 Views
What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM 1121 Views
Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM 709 Views
PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM 602 Views
Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM* Gher - 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM 303 Views
yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM 609 Views
I was mostly kidding. Gher - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM 565 Views
Fair enough darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:07:00 AM 595 Views
She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM 295 Views
Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM 612 Views
I agree. This doesn't reveal anything about her role. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:42:31 PM 538 Views
Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 292 Views
Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example. Logain - 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM 654 Views
Brutal, but effective darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM 629 Views
If it was that simple... Logain - 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM 554 Views
not without revealing who she was to the AS darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:33:40 PM 879 Views
You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM 531 Views
good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM* amirebram - 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM 295 Views
I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM 692 Views
You're mis-understanding something Logain - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM 540 Views
No they don't darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM 578 Views
As above, they don't. redqueen - 25/12/2009 06:06:28 PM 631 Views
I don't think Elaida will need to be broken to reveal it... MightyYT - 18/12/2009 10:47:21 AM 544 Views
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