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I was mostly kidding. Gher Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM
I didn't mean why rename her at all ... I meant why specifically give her a name that is essentially "Suffer" if she wasn't going to be paying for bad behavior


Well, it could be a giant penance to put her in her place. I don't think the a'dam, sul'dam, and damane concept will survive the end of the series (though I think it's a good solution for criminals and BA, but doubt it will be used as such), so unless Suffa dies in the next two books, she'll be freed eventually. Perhaps she comes out of it a broken woman, perhaps just humbled.
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How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM 1052 Views
Knowing Elaida's ego Etzel - 16/12/2009 03:30:38 PM 626 Views
Re: Knowing Elaida's ego BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 03:54:28 PM 598 Views
Not long DomA - 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM 698 Views
I disagree with the Asha'man part darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM 633 Views
You misinterpreted me DomA - 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM 604 Views
OH! I see now what you meant *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:09:13 AM 346 Views
That could be ironic ajfurst - 17/12/2009 06:27:36 AM 495 Views
Re: That could be ironic DomA - 17/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 549 Views
I'd like to see Tuon do something that helps the good guys Logain - 17/12/2009 05:07:07 PM 524 Views
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM 559 Views
I doubt it darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM 623 Views
What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM 959 Views
Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM 586 Views
PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM 559 Views
Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM* Gher - 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM 265 Views
yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM 511 Views
I was mostly kidding. Gher - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM 472 Views
Fair enough darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:07:00 AM 514 Views
She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM 251 Views
Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM 482 Views
I agree. This doesn't reveal anything about her role. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:42:31 PM 444 Views
Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 238 Views
Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example. Logain - 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM 548 Views
Brutal, but effective darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM 542 Views
If it was that simple... Logain - 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM 474 Views
not without revealing who she was to the AS darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:33:40 PM 796 Views
You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM 453 Views
good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM* amirebram - 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM 255 Views
I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM 577 Views
You're mis-understanding something Logain - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM 467 Views
No they don't darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM 481 Views
As above, they don't. redqueen - 25/12/2009 06:06:28 PM 545 Views
I don't think Elaida will need to be broken to reveal it... MightyYT - 18/12/2009 10:47:21 AM 454 Views
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