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A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM
IIRC, Wilders/Sparkers tend to be stronger than women who learn to touch the source. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Now, we also know that because the Tower was not actively recruiting, the majority of women who can channel are not found by the Tower.

If sparkers tend to be stronger than learners, and the majority are not associated with the Tower because they simply were not found, then the bulk of the women who should occupy the "average/strong" level were not found.

We also know that the majority of women who begin channeling on their own die of it. I cannot recall if it's 2/3 or 3/4 of women who touch the source without guidance die of it. The ones that survive often have blocks (as RPA mentioned in his reply above).

EDIT: It's actually 4/5 of women who touch the source without training die of it.

So, from those thoughts, I would suggest that the bulk of the women that would be considered "strong" by the Tower died from lack of training.
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength Shannow - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1436 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided Asha'man Warder - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 827 Views
The Curve only refers to the channeling population, not to non-channelers. Shannow - 18/12/2009 01:56:25 PM 828 Views
I would say that your sample is flawed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM 898 Views
well said *NM* darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 422 Views
It doesn't matter... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM 759 Views
But, it sort of does. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM 818 Views
So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM 905 Views
Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM 854 Views
The Tower is restricted to the middle... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM 985 Views
Two things... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM 818 Views
The culling theory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM 766 Views
The culling theory applies to the ENTIRE population, not just Aes Sedai... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:42:31 PM 887 Views
Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Phelix - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 952 Views
Re: Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:06:15 PM 744 Views
Several more things... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM 912 Views
You don't understand your own model... Shannow - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 932 Views
So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? darius_sedai - 19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM 826 Views
Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? Sidious - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 787 Views
Its simple really... fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 810 Views
So, Aviendha trumps RJ? A woman who, as late as tGS, doesn't know what she's doing with the OP? fionwe1987 - 19/12/2009 06:12:42 PM 809 Views
Age-Related Sample Bias Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 778 Views
I have no problem with that...but it implies that the average woman today isn't at 50% of Lanfear... Shannow - 18/12/2009 09:46:00 PM 897 Views
Partially agreed... Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:13:46 PM 798 Views
Well, the Aes Sedai are the only group that we have detailed strength info about... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:26:48 PM 894 Views
Sharina is AS ... she'd be dead in a few years if she hadn't gone to the Tower *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 01:08:20 AM 871 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... Phelix - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 776 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS darius_sedai - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 783 Views
Yes... Phelix - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 876 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? Gher - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 766 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... Phelix - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 770 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. amirebram - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 834 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 787 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 1023 Views
Agree, but a little more curvy is better amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:17:16 PM 724 Views
*facepalm* BlackAdder - 18/12/2009 10:13:16 PM 809 Views
That's just the normalized value graphed on a log scale. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:20:41 PM 782 Views
Dude, Seriously? Shadowkiller - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 798 Views
Indeed, and that's why I propose that... Shannow - 18/12/2009 10:31:23 PM 793 Views
So RJ used two separate scales, one actual one relative, to explain the same thing? fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:33:20 PM 756 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:10 PM 779 Views
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of a non-Gaussian bell curve. Can you prove its existence? *NM* fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 03:24:22 AM 443 Views
Maybe people in my field just use the term in a non-technical way. We do things with ... amirebram - 21/12/2009 07:24:43 PM 734 Views
It does to RJ Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 867 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 755 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 448 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 1088 Views
You can have IQ's above that... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 799 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 391 Views
Eh. Ignore the IQ value and draw it on a linear weight scale amirebram - 19/12/2009 11:26:23 PM 762 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's stre Kieran - 19/12/2009 06:02:34 PM 735 Views
I like this idea Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 938 Views
Accidental Post *NM* Shadowkiller - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 439 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 739 Views
Re: The One Power Bell Curve: taura-tierno - 27/12/2009 10:05:33 PM 895 Views
What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:28:13 PM 1097 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? taura-tierno - 28/12/2009 03:19:14 PM 776 Views
Re: What makes you think Alviarin is "middling"? darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:30:44 PM 996 Views
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