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He used the evil TP to balefire evil Semi. Be on the alert for Mordeth. *NM* BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 23/12/2009 12:05:33 AM
There has been some speculation here that Rand and company will have to use the TP to actually touch the DO during the LB in order to prevent the same backlash that caused the taint on Saidin.


The problem with that idea is that regardless of whether it is even possible or not, it feels very unlike the themes Robert Jordan has developed for the series. I needn't remind you that 'using evil to fight evil' is essentially the principle which turned Aridhol into Shadar Logoth. I do believe that it is quite apparent that Robert Jordan does not intend this to be the path to victory.

Also, our best evidence to date suggests that the True Power can only be obtained at Shai'tan's whim, and while I know of the argument according to which Rand is capable of obtaining it through Moridin, it is certainly not enough of a certainty to be basing arguments on it. The entire issue is moot if Rand used the True Power at Shai'tan's volition, because it would certainly not favour the use of it against itself.
This message last edited by BlackAdder on 23/12/2009 at 12:05:43 AM
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Can a channeler embrace and use the True Power and the One Power at the same time? *NM* Gher - 21/12/2009 01:03:26 AM 924 Views
I wouldn't think so... vandevere - 21/12/2009 02:37:39 AM 1065 Views
I don't think anyone would have a reason to try and channel both powers at once *NM* Ryan - 21/12/2009 04:22:40 AM 514 Views
Rand did it BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 04:41:54 AM 967 Views
Honey, you're confused. Phelix - 21/12/2009 04:56:02 AM 972 Views
Re: Honey, you're confused. BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 05:04:15 AM 1009 Views
The context of the conversation should've been the clue. Phelix - 21/12/2009 05:07:40 AM 1134 Views
Beg to differ BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 05:21:01 AM 867 Views
beg harder :p Nargs - 21/12/2009 05:26:28 AM 995 Views
Which is exactly what I said earlier *NM* BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 05:28:36 AM 393 Views
Saidin and saidar are the same Power. Fanatic-Templar - 21/12/2009 05:27:50 AM 1015 Views
OK, that clears it up for me... *NM* BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 05:30:01 AM 463 Views
No problem. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 21/12/2009 06:58:22 AM 356 Views
You're allowed to be wrong. Phelix - 21/12/2009 05:30:15 AM 1029 Views
Re: You're allowed to be wrong. BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 05:42:50 AM 1050 Views
I stand (sit really) corrected. Phelix - 21/12/2009 05:47:09 AM 1043 Views
I'm kind of with BlackAdder on this... jiggy - 21/12/2009 10:45:09 AM 1087 Views
Can TP users link with OP users, or even link at all? *NM* Shadowkiller - 21/12/2009 02:40:36 PM 495 Views
Good questions! I was just wondering if there are a male and female halves of the TP. jiggy - 21/12/2009 02:50:41 PM 1271 Views
There definitely are not two half of the TP (btw, anyone else irritated at the name similarity?) beetnemesis - 21/12/2009 04:02:31 PM 973 Views
The name "True Power" is simply Shadow propaganda. *NM* Etzel - 21/12/2009 04:18:25 PM 535 Views
What about the "bloody Power"? Band of the Red Hand propaganda? *NM* BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 06:14:16 PM 450 Views
*shrug* RJ could have easily justified a more unique name beetnemesis - 22/12/2009 05:09:09 PM 1025 Views
It's precisely the intention... Etzel - 22/12/2009 05:43:55 PM 912 Views
The reason 'two halves of a whole' is relevant... Fanatic-Templar - 21/12/2009 06:51:07 PM 1023 Views
Yeah, I think it would probably destroy the body of the person attempting it. Gher - 21/12/2009 06:27:50 PM 875 Views
Hmm BlackAdder - 21/12/2009 07:42:14 PM 952 Views
Haven't we already seen the effects of mixing TP and OP... Shadowkiller - 21/12/2009 09:50:18 PM 1003 Views
Could just be two balefire streams trying to undo each other. Gher - 21/12/2009 11:25:31 PM 767 Views
This may be important at the LB caltman - 22/12/2009 11:36:53 AM 1031 Views
I find that unlikely. Fanatic-Templar - 22/12/2009 08:57:24 PM 931 Views
It has to be important sometime Shadowkiller - 22/12/2009 09:10:46 PM 1013 Views
Such as showing how close Rand came to being the Shadow's Champion? *NM* Gher - 22/12/2009 09:35:25 PM 501 Views
If that's the only purpose, awesome story potential has been wasted *NM* Shadowkiller - 22/12/2009 09:51:51 PM 494 Views
Ì'm with Gher on this one. Fanatic-Templar - 22/12/2009 10:27:48 PM 975 Views
I disagree. Rand almost destroyed the Pattern. That's pretty big IMO. Gher - 22/12/2009 10:39:00 PM 826 Views
Good point. Fighting the DO with the TP is an Aridhol mindset. *NM* Gher - 22/12/2009 10:40:02 PM 453 Views
Heh, the abbreviations made me laugh just now. *NM* Gher - 22/12/2009 10:40:48 PM 476 Views
He used the evil TP to balefire evil Semi. Be on the alert for Mordeth. *NM* BlackAdder - 23/12/2009 12:05:33 AM 887 Views
And the title of that chapter is "The Last that Could be Done" Fanatic-Templar - 23/12/2009 02:54:35 AM 931 Views
I would venture to say 'No' RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/12/2009 07:47:50 PM 876 Views
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