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That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM
I always felt like her 'cause' was more to the mission itself than the results. I always had the impression that it was more important to her that she complete her goal than it was for people to be benefited from the results of that goal.


The whole Dragon Reborn thing means a TON of death, destruction, and chaos. It's a GIVEN. That's the BEST case scenario. Moiraine knows that the most important thing, the ONLY thing, is making sure Rand wins no matter what. It will be bad either way, but if Rand loses it will be an eternity of agony.



The Aiel prophecy is a good analogy. Without Rand, the Aiel will all be wiped out in the Last Battle. Hands down, no question, an entire race of millions of people will be slaughtered.

WITH Rand... a "remnant of a remnant" will be saved. Whether that means a few hundred thousand, a few dozen, or just a few, it's better than the certainty of zero.




Moiraine realized this a long time ago, which is why she is so single-minded. She's almost like a Verin hypnosis-victim. The Dragon must fight the Last Battle, and win. No matter what.
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Who is the bravest WOT character -- a soldier willing to sacrifice the most for their own cause? ajah - 23/01/2010 08:47:47 AM 2150 Views
reply to my own survey ajah - 23/01/2010 08:53:26 AM 1454 Views
I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. *NM* Etzel - 23/01/2010 09:04:48 AM 608 Views
Re: I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. ajah - 23/01/2010 09:11:12 AM 1398 Views
I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner beetnemesis - 23/01/2010 09:12:01 AM 1399 Views
Re: I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner ajah - 23/01/2010 09:23:18 AM 1443 Views
..Supporting, I suppose. But just barely beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:27:13 AM 1204 Views
Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 11:15:14 AM 1323 Views
I also approve of both your suggestions. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:11:26 PM 607 Views
Yes, but you're incompetent Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:39:49 PM 1093 Views
Cadsuane almost wet her self then ran out the door darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 04:53:13 PM 1523 Views
But Tuon wasn't threatened with death... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2010 05:20:17 PM 1031 Views
Occasionally. At least I didn't dedicate my life to achieving mediocrity, Hidious. Fanatic-Templar - 25/01/2010 05:42:21 PM 1135 Views
Re: Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. ajah - 23/01/2010 10:15:27 PM 1313 Views
Can totally get behind Tuon for that scene. Bornhold's a boring fanatic, though. *NM* beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:28:11 AM 610 Views
Rand? Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:08:48 PM 1365 Views
Rand and Verin randfandom - 23/01/2010 06:05:10 PM 1272 Views
Not even really a contest. johnnymack - 23/01/2010 06:25:26 PM 1347 Views
Incidentally... Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 10:00:02 PM 1213 Views
Short answer: her life (and lifetime) beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:32:32 AM 1339 Views
Meh. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 09:43:50 AM 1166 Views
Psh, who joins the Aes Sedai with a cause? beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:55:29 AM 1095 Views
How did she ever dodge the Black Ajah? Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:53:17 AM 1144 Views
Bravery vs Sacrifice. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:42:13 PM 1224 Views
She was fighting the BA, but they couldn't know she existed beetnemesis - 25/01/2010 05:14:47 AM 1262 Views
Not the point. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 06:16:05 PM 1082 Views
The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... Yondaime - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM 1354 Views
That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM 1259 Views
That's an interesting comment. Gher - 25/01/2010 04:20:15 AM 1160 Views
Re: That's an interesting comment. Lord Haart - 25/01/2010 06:52:23 AM 1022 Views
Egwene should be considered *NM* Reptile - 24/01/2010 04:50:38 PM 562 Views
I'm going with darius_sedai - 24/01/2010 06:06:57 AM 1187 Views
A very sensible suggestion. I agree. *NM* Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:56:55 AM 530 Views
All the Forsaken except Mesaana and perhaps Moridin qualify. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:49:17 PM 1122 Views
Easy Winner... Kieran - 24/01/2010 10:36:14 PM 1072 Views
Egwene RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2010 03:24:39 PM 1075 Views
I'll have to disagree with this Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:37:43 PM 1099 Views
I think that title is best suited to Elayne darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 05:01:03 PM 1430 Views
And she is just plain lucky too. And people tend to save her a$$. amirebram - 26/01/2010 10:10:33 PM 1088 Views
I changed my mind - Tigraine Mantear is the bravest character I can think of. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:32 PM 1192 Views
Lews Therin and the hundred Companions Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:31:03 PM 1213 Views
+1, this belongs on the list *NM* BlackAdder - 26/01/2010 11:27:00 AM 507 Views
I can't really credit Lews Therin with anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:09 PM 1070 Views
Why's he too powerful? Sidious - 28/01/2010 04:31:56 PM 1024 Views
Dragon Reborn, plus mightiest channeler, plus t'a'veren of great magnitude, plus leader of the World RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/01/2010 05:56:13 PM 972 Views
Tamra. Her speech after Gitara Moroso's death in NS was heartbreaking. Lord Haart - 26/01/2010 08:28:37 AM 1096 Views
I'd say Galad ranagrande - 29/01/2010 10:08:36 PM 1007 Views
Nynaeve isn't the "most fearless", but she is the bravest JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:18:15 PM 1239 Views
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