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That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM
I always felt like her 'cause' was more to the mission itself than the results. I always had the impression that it was more important to her that she complete her goal than it was for people to be benefited from the results of that goal.


The whole Dragon Reborn thing means a TON of death, destruction, and chaos. It's a GIVEN. That's the BEST case scenario. Moiraine knows that the most important thing, the ONLY thing, is making sure Rand wins no matter what. It will be bad either way, but if Rand loses it will be an eternity of agony.



The Aiel prophecy is a good analogy. Without Rand, the Aiel will all be wiped out in the Last Battle. Hands down, no question, an entire race of millions of people will be slaughtered.

WITH Rand... a "remnant of a remnant" will be saved. Whether that means a few hundred thousand, a few dozen, or just a few, it's better than the certainty of zero.




Moiraine realized this a long time ago, which is why she is so single-minded. She's almost like a Verin hypnosis-victim. The Dragon must fight the Last Battle, and win. No matter what.
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Who is the bravest WOT character -- a soldier willing to sacrifice the most for their own cause? ajah - 23/01/2010 08:47:47 AM 2087 Views
reply to my own survey ajah - 23/01/2010 08:53:26 AM 1398 Views
I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. *NM* Etzel - 23/01/2010 09:04:48 AM 569 Views
Re: I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. ajah - 23/01/2010 09:11:12 AM 1339 Views
I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner beetnemesis - 23/01/2010 09:12:01 AM 1326 Views
Re: I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner ajah - 23/01/2010 09:23:18 AM 1381 Views
..Supporting, I suppose. But just barely beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:27:13 AM 1119 Views
Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 11:15:14 AM 1248 Views
I also approve of both your suggestions. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:11:26 PM 539 Views
Yes, but you're incompetent Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:39:49 PM 1035 Views
Cadsuane almost wet her self then ran out the door darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 04:53:13 PM 1453 Views
But Tuon wasn't threatened with death... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2010 05:20:17 PM 961 Views
Occasionally. At least I didn't dedicate my life to achieving mediocrity, Hidious. Fanatic-Templar - 25/01/2010 05:42:21 PM 1071 Views
Re: Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. ajah - 23/01/2010 10:15:27 PM 1250 Views
Can totally get behind Tuon for that scene. Bornhold's a boring fanatic, though. *NM* beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:28:11 AM 564 Views
Rand? Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:08:48 PM 1275 Views
Rand and Verin randfandom - 23/01/2010 06:05:10 PM 1203 Views
Not even really a contest. johnnymack - 23/01/2010 06:25:26 PM 1277 Views
Incidentally... Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 10:00:02 PM 1137 Views
Short answer: her life (and lifetime) beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:32:32 AM 1249 Views
Meh. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 09:43:50 AM 1107 Views
Psh, who joins the Aes Sedai with a cause? beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:55:29 AM 1020 Views
How did she ever dodge the Black Ajah? Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:53:17 AM 1082 Views
Bravery vs Sacrifice. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:42:13 PM 1157 Views
She was fighting the BA, but they couldn't know she existed beetnemesis - 25/01/2010 05:14:47 AM 1197 Views
Not the point. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 06:16:05 PM 1002 Views
The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... Yondaime - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM 1268 Views
That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM 1187 Views
That's an interesting comment. Gher - 25/01/2010 04:20:15 AM 1086 Views
Re: That's an interesting comment. Lord Haart - 25/01/2010 06:52:23 AM 957 Views
Egwene should be considered *NM* Reptile - 24/01/2010 04:50:38 PM 521 Views
I'm going with darius_sedai - 24/01/2010 06:06:57 AM 1120 Views
A very sensible suggestion. I agree. *NM* Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:56:55 AM 479 Views
All the Forsaken except Mesaana and perhaps Moridin qualify. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:49:17 PM 1046 Views
Easy Winner... Kieran - 24/01/2010 10:36:14 PM 999 Views
Egwene RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2010 03:24:39 PM 981 Views
I'll have to disagree with this Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:37:43 PM 1001 Views
I think that title is best suited to Elayne darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 05:01:03 PM 1348 Views
And she is just plain lucky too. And people tend to save her a$$. amirebram - 26/01/2010 10:10:33 PM 1036 Views
I changed my mind - Tigraine Mantear is the bravest character I can think of. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:32 PM 1099 Views
Lews Therin and the hundred Companions Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:31:03 PM 1138 Views
+1, this belongs on the list *NM* BlackAdder - 26/01/2010 11:27:00 AM 459 Views
I can't really credit Lews Therin with anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:09 PM 973 Views
Why's he too powerful? Sidious - 28/01/2010 04:31:56 PM 945 Views
Dragon Reborn, plus mightiest channeler, plus t'a'veren of great magnitude, plus leader of the World RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/01/2010 05:56:13 PM 915 Views
Tamra. Her speech after Gitara Moroso's death in NS was heartbreaking. Lord Haart - 26/01/2010 08:28:37 AM 1002 Views
I'd say Galad ranagrande - 29/01/2010 10:08:36 PM 931 Views
Nynaeve isn't the "most fearless", but she is the bravest JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:18:15 PM 1161 Views
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