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Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 08/02/2010 07:22:56 PM
One thing that always bothered me about the uper channlerer status given to Alivia was that while she may be very strong she was still captured by Asha'man. Now we have seen very strong Asha'man and while they are generally stronger that Aes Sedai and their tallents lie (usually) with fire and earth that make great weapons most are not forsaken level but they still were able to knock her out.

If two channelers of equal or near equal strenght fight one on one skill will then play a very big factor. But not only is there knowing how to use a weave but what I would have though is a big factor is how good a fighter they are i.e. how fast can they spin their weaves, can they keep their heads while the ground around them is blowing up etc. Then there is also luck


Agreed. Skill also makes a big difference if someone who is completely inept is against an expert (Alivia, not knowing about inverted weaves, would be like this vs. Lanfear).

Plus, as you said, we don't know how much willpower or luck came into it. Cyndane/Lanfear certainly wanted her chance to get at Rand/LTT more than anyone than perhaps Demandred, but unlike Demandred she is mindtrapped, so the Cleansing was her only chance to both obey her orders and strike at LTT. So I think that anger and passion certainly played a role there, whereas the others would have held something back.

Out of interest, would it be possible that Cyndane used the TP in that fight? If not, I'm kind of surprised that Moridin didn't attack, with the TP he could have easily ended that battle (though I suspect that killing Rand or Nynaeve during the Cleansing would have detonated the weaves in a Nuclear fashion. So he sent in the expendables).
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Strength versus Skill in battle ... Skill wins. - 07/02/2010 10:11:13 PM 1255 Views
Yes...1 OC fight trumps all the times when we have seen Rand's strength send Forsaken skill running *NM* - 08/02/2010 04:10:28 AM 386 Views
+1 *NM* - 08/02/2010 02:55:27 PM 251 Views
Yeah, Ryan kicked Luke's ass - 09/02/2010 04:23:43 PM 523 Views
Who's Ryan, and who's Luke??? Ryne and Lan? *NM* - 09/02/2010 06:18:03 PM 225 Views
Rand is very skilled thanks to LTT - 13/02/2010 05:37:42 PM 439 Views
Re: Strength versus Skill in battle ... Skill wins. - 08/02/2010 05:09:27 AM 591 Views
Re: Strength versus Skill in battle ... Skill wins. - 13/02/2010 05:32:05 PM 453 Views
IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 08/02/2010 06:20:09 AM 595 Views
Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 08/02/2010 12:22:05 PM 548 Views
Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 08/02/2010 07:22:56 PM 493 Views
Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 13/02/2010 05:33:24 PM 451 Views
all of which comes down to skill beating strength - 13/02/2010 05:32:42 PM 442 Views
Well, Alivia could just have shielded Cyndane, no sweat, just like Rand shielding Verin... - 08/02/2010 02:28:49 PM 2600 Views
Ehhh, I don't think so. - 08/02/2010 11:00:45 PM 540 Views
I agree - 13/02/2010 05:39:02 PM 554 Views
I genereally agree - 08/02/2010 05:32:24 PM 650 Views
This is too cut and dried... - 08/02/2010 07:43:56 PM 542 Views
I like "Alivia is essentially an incredibly strong retard" - 08/02/2010 07:57:32 PM 683 Views
My intent was to show that skill makes up for strength differentials - 13/02/2010 05:27:50 PM 419 Views
Also, we don't know how badly damaged Cyndane was, right? - 08/02/2010 07:44:04 PM 494 Views
sure we do - 14/02/2010 12:45:12 AM 439 Views
You are forgetting... - 09/02/2010 01:05:52 AM 558 Views
Good point. - 09/02/2010 04:15:26 AM 536 Views
exactly - 14/02/2010 12:47:14 AM 445 Views

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