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Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 08/02/2010 07:22:56 PM
One thing that always bothered me about the uper channlerer status given to Alivia was that while she may be very strong she was still captured by Asha'man. Now we have seen very strong Asha'man and while they are generally stronger that Aes Sedai and their tallents lie (usually) with fire and earth that make great weapons most are not forsaken level but they still were able to knock her out.

If two channelers of equal or near equal strenght fight one on one skill will then play a very big factor. But not only is there knowing how to use a weave but what I would have though is a big factor is how good a fighter they are i.e. how fast can they spin their weaves, can they keep their heads while the ground around them is blowing up etc. Then there is also luck


Agreed. Skill also makes a big difference if someone who is completely inept is against an expert (Alivia, not knowing about inverted weaves, would be like this vs. Lanfear).

Plus, as you said, we don't know how much willpower or luck came into it. Cyndane/Lanfear certainly wanted her chance to get at Rand/LTT more than anyone than perhaps Demandred, but unlike Demandred she is mindtrapped, so the Cleansing was her only chance to both obey her orders and strike at LTT. So I think that anger and passion certainly played a role there, whereas the others would have held something back.

Out of interest, would it be possible that Cyndane used the TP in that fight? If not, I'm kind of surprised that Moridin didn't attack, with the TP he could have easily ended that battle (though I suspect that killing Rand or Nynaeve during the Cleansing would have detonated the weaves in a Nuclear fashion. So he sent in the expendables).
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Strength versus Skill in battle ... Skill wins. - 07/02/2010 10:11:13 PM 1524 Views
Yes...1 OC fight trumps all the times when we have seen Rand's strength send Forsaken skill running *NM* - 08/02/2010 04:10:28 AM 488 Views
+1 *NM* - 08/02/2010 02:55:27 PM 383 Views
Yeah, Ryan kicked Luke's ass - 09/02/2010 04:23:43 PM 842 Views
Who's Ryan, and who's Luke??? Ryne and Lan? *NM* - 09/02/2010 06:18:03 PM 346 Views
Rand is very skilled thanks to LTT - 13/02/2010 05:37:42 PM 723 Views
Re: Strength versus Skill in battle ... Skill wins. - 08/02/2010 05:09:27 AM 890 Views
Re: Strength versus Skill in battle ... Skill wins. - 13/02/2010 05:32:05 PM 723 Views
IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 08/02/2010 06:20:09 AM 896 Views
Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 08/02/2010 12:22:05 PM 806 Views
Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 08/02/2010 07:22:56 PM 825 Views
Re: IMO, that had nothing to do with skill in the OP - 13/02/2010 05:33:24 PM 712 Views
all of which comes down to skill beating strength - 13/02/2010 05:32:42 PM 726 Views
Well, Alivia could just have shielded Cyndane, no sweat, just like Rand shielding Verin... - 08/02/2010 02:28:49 PM 2916 Views
Ehhh, I don't think so. - 08/02/2010 11:00:45 PM 834 Views
I agree - 13/02/2010 05:39:02 PM 845 Views
I genereally agree - 08/02/2010 05:32:24 PM 937 Views
This is too cut and dried... - 08/02/2010 07:43:56 PM 817 Views
I like "Alivia is essentially an incredibly strong retard" - 08/02/2010 07:57:32 PM 980 Views
My intent was to show that skill makes up for strength differentials - 13/02/2010 05:27:50 PM 702 Views
Also, we don't know how badly damaged Cyndane was, right? - 08/02/2010 07:44:04 PM 795 Views
sure we do - 14/02/2010 12:45:12 AM 751 Views
You are forgetting... - 09/02/2010 01:05:52 AM 853 Views
Good point. - 09/02/2010 04:15:26 AM 826 Views
exactly - 14/02/2010 12:47:14 AM 709 Views

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