So you think him submitting to the Seanchan is a good thing?
lilltempest Send a noteboard - 17/02/2010 07:25:13 PM
He initially tried to cow them, which didn't work, then to destroy them, but he had a crisis of conscience. I think that representative of his presumably improved outlook, he will bow to the throne or Tuon in some manner. This is made more likely by the events on the Seanchan side of things. Tuon held off on becoming Empress and taking a new name because their customs and laws could not allow anyone to be the equal of the Empress, and she wanted to give herself some breathing room in dealing with Rand, rather than trying to force his submission or antagonizing him by adhering to their protocol which he had not been raised to accept. Now, however, she has taken the final step and CANNOT deal with him as an equal. If Rand is to deal further with the Empire, he MUST bow to Tuon, barring, as always, some radical change in the paradigm.
"Kneeling to the throne" means submitting to its authority. It means Rand no longer takes initiative to fight the Shadow and, instead, obeys Tuon's wishes and allows himself to be used as her tool. And you think this is a good thing?
Also, if you want to go this route, then Rand has no choice but to kneel to Egwene as well since he can no longer meet her as an "equal" (since the world basically equates the Amyrlin as being above everyone save the Creator *her*self). So when he's done kneeling and submitting and scraping to Tuon, he can go kneel and bow and scrape and submit to Egwene as well because you know damned well Egwene will *not* be bowing to Tuon and will somehow manage to get the upper hand over her and the Seanchan.
I don't doubt that RJ fully intended to have Rand submit to Egwene's authority, but I find it difficult to believe that he intended to have Tuon have a leash on Rand as well. Someone has to be the "big dog" and that will be Egwene, not Tuon. Then again, maybe RJ's plan was to have Rand submit to Tuon, get reamed by Egwene for it, have Egwene stomp Tuon into submission, then get control of Rand by default after she assumes control of the Seanchan. Actually, that sounds about right.
Will Rand bow to the Crystal Throne?
- 16/02/2010 07:03:12 PM
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I lean towards somethng like this as a result of the end of tGS.
- 16/02/2010 08:24:20 PM
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So you think him submitting to the Seanchan is a good thing?
- 17/02/2010 07:25:13 PM
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It's WoT. You win by surrendering. Metaphysical judo, if you will.
- 17/02/2010 11:03:22 PM
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Re: It's WoT. You win by surrendering. Metaphysical judo, if you will.
- 17/02/2010 11:41:11 PM
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Re: It's WoT. You win by surrendering. Metaphysical judo, if you will.
- 18/02/2010 03:23:39 AM
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Re: It's WoT. You win by surrendering. Metaphysical judo, if you will.
- 18/02/2010 03:38:04 AM
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Re: It's WoT. You win by surrendering. Metaphysical judo, if you will.
- 19/02/2010 03:18:35 PM
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Re: I lean towards somethng like this as a result of the end of tGS.
- 18/02/2010 07:18:44 AM
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Re: I lean towards somethng like this as a result of the end of tGS.
- 18/02/2010 01:22:49 PM
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Why everyone's loving Seanchan?
- 18/02/2010 02:41:07 PM
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- 18/02/2010 02:41:07 PM
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As I said - all of Randland's political systems have strengths and weaknesses.
- 18/02/2010 05:46:40 PM
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I've been saying since wotmania that they are no worse than anyone else.
- 19/02/2010 03:23:22 PM
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Re: I've been saying since wotmania that they are no worse than anyone else.
- 19/02/2010 06:13:08 PM
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Re: I've been saying since wotmania that they are no worse than anyone else.
- 19/02/2010 07:37:25 PM
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the entire system of Seekers isn't an abuse of power? Bethamin winds up fleeing due to her fear of
- 20/02/2010 12:13:52 AM
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No, they're the only group that seems to pay more than lip service to the concept of responsibility
- 20/02/2010 03:37:58 PM
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You asked for an example of abuse of power. The Seekers are a clear abuse no better than any
- 20/02/2010 04:42:06 PM
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Thanks for the perspective of outsiders and the behavior of a Darkfriend. THAT's good info!
- 24/02/2010 01:26:39 PM
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