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Judging by his father's profession, yes. Legolas Send a noteboard - 28/07/2010 06:53:02 PM
His dad's a milkman, and we don't hear anything about his mother to know what she does or even if she's alive.

But he doesn't get the particular speech patterns. And, at the risk of offending certain participants in this discussion, he's always seemed more American than anything else to me. ;)
I'd say that Seamus Finegan is as well, but that's just based upon my dislike of football. :P

Don't you mean Dean Thomas, then? There is plenty of variation in the social background of Rowling's characters, but that makes it all the stranger perhaps that only a few characters get the speech patterns to go along with it.

And Dark Knight's point was indeed also part of what I meant - that the wizarding world as depicted in the books is largely middle class. They have to have a constant inflow of Muggles, some of those working class, but it seems to me like Hogwarts graduates such as Dean and Colin, like Snape in his time, would still mostly end up being middle class themselves in the wizarding world even if they're from working class backgrounds in the Muggle world.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - 28/07/2010 12:00:14 PM 3582 Views
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say... - 28/07/2010 01:40:37 PM 2343 Views
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Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 2141 Views
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM 2060 Views
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If I'm not mistaken - 30/07/2010 04:36:18 PM 2018 Views
Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM 2385 Views
It's not entirely clear, true. - 08/08/2010 02:44:50 PM 2167 Views
Incorrect - 28/07/2010 04:17:09 PM 2074 Views
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Colin Creevey is working class. - 28/07/2010 06:32:45 PM 2048 Views
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Ah, that's a good point. - 28/07/2010 06:43:00 PM 1986 Views
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Judging by his father's profession, yes. - 28/07/2010 06:53:02 PM 2098 Views
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And the beginning of "appearances can be deceiving". - 02/08/2010 11:48:36 PM 2055 Views
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius. - 28/07/2010 02:22:17 PM 1967 Views
I was talking about that, yes, among other things. - 28/07/2010 07:00:08 PM 1964 Views
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Thats easy really - 28/07/2010 02:05:26 PM 2066 Views
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That is very well done in this book, I thought. - 28/07/2010 02:08:21 PM 1974 Views
Dont foget the most important foreshadowing! - 28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM 1980 Views
not yet. - 28/07/2010 02:23:28 PM 1910 Views
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin! - 29/07/2010 11:48:55 AM 2064 Views
Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM 1048 Views
Could be, could be. - 29/07/2010 02:37:41 PM 2032 Views
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Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 1068 Views
He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 2125 Views
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here? - 30/07/2010 01:48:06 PM 1955 Views
I don't think it's too early. - 30/07/2010 06:26:15 PM 1888 Views
I don't think it's too early to argue that. - 03/08/2010 06:02:17 PM 2107 Views
Themes. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:24:31 AM 992 Views
Death and fear of death - 29/07/2010 11:51:25 AM 1947 Views
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point - 29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM 2128 Views
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Introduction of the Dementors. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:26:59 AM 1088 Views
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Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:31:47 PM 1032 Views
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I thinking something thats a little off topic - 29/07/2010 02:40:36 PM 1889 Views
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends - 29/07/2010 02:47:31 PM 1917 Views
Mission accomplished. - 29/07/2010 02:48:35 PM 2005 Views
Yippee! - 29/07/2010 02:52:16 PM 1891 Views
And among her most original, I'd say. - 30/07/2010 01:53:25 PM 1947 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:51:05 PM 1897 Views
Re: "He's at Hogwarts." - 04/08/2010 11:52:55 PM 2037 Views
I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1926 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1897 Views
Good point. - 05/08/2010 11:06:10 PM 1949 Views
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Re: Characters. - 30/07/2010 02:50:07 PM 1798 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 952 Views
She is getting good at misdirection - 30/07/2010 02:50:40 PM 1893 Views
Other things you want to comment on. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:13:36 PM 1082 Views
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart. - 30/07/2010 06:19:16 PM 1941 Views
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Yes, excellent scene. - 09/08/2010 08:06:05 PM 1918 Views
Chapters 10-12. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:18 PM 991 Views
Characters. - 02/08/2010 12:50:36 PM 2057 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 940 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 02/08/2010 01:36:49 PM 2117 Views
I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:50:03 PM 1775 Views
I think it's just an unfortunate way of expressing herself. - 02/08/2010 02:53:26 PM 1882 Views
Re: I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:53:48 PM 1918 Views
I suspect.... - 03/08/2010 03:17:32 PM 2087 Views
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I agree - 03/08/2010 05:25:10 PM 1931 Views
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Mmmkay. - 04/08/2010 02:39:14 PM 1953 Views
Trelawny's Predictions - 02/08/2010 02:56:53 PM 1899 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 1065 Views
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What if - 02/08/2010 11:50:28 PM 1758 Views
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Chapters 13-15. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:57 PM 1063 Views
Characters. - 03/08/2010 05:25:47 PM 1910 Views
Re: Characters. - 03/08/2010 05:29:32 PM 2045 Views
Re: Characters. - 08/08/2010 02:21:17 PM 1921 Views
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 2008 Views
Agreed. - 08/08/2010 02:37:18 PM 1955 Views
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Agreed. - 08/08/2010 03:03:19 PM 1996 Views
Re: 200 people - 09/08/2010 12:09:53 AM 1925 Views
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we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 2198 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 1042 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 03/08/2010 05:31:43 PM 2024 Views
Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1905 Views
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I knew I saw this somewhere. - 09/08/2010 08:16:01 PM 1842 Views
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pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 2011 Views
Did they come out and explain Crookshanks? - 11/08/2010 04:20:18 PM 2037 Views
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM 1058 Views
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:48:57 PM 2081 Views
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For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1935 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1962 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1859 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1991 Views
Re: Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:18:01 PM 2187 Views
Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1942 Views
Chapters 16-18. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:11 PM 1094 Views
Characters. - 04/08/2010 04:16:39 PM 2067 Views
Re: Characters. - 04/08/2010 05:18:56 PM 1980 Views
Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 2062 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1956 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1863 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:01:48 PM 1782 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1994 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:12:48 PM 1895 Views
OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1919 Views
Re: OK - 08/08/2010 03:16:23 PM 2000 Views
Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1878 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1742 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 2013 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 1172 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 04/08/2010 05:19:45 PM 1841 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:09:23 PM 2027 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:11:43 PM 1993 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:14:04 PM 1802 Views
Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:15:51 PM 1872 Views
Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 1042 Views
Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM 1739 Views
Re: Characters. - 05/08/2010 02:45:53 PM 2283 Views
See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 2343 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM 2047 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM 2380 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 2206 Views
Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 2055 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 2004 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 953 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM 2192 Views
I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1963 Views
Re: I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:16:37 PM 1969 Views
Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1890 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 999 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1849 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 2085 Views
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Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 999 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 1063 Views
Re: And for the last time in this book... characters? - 06/08/2010 06:26:23 PM 1936 Views
Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1773 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 06:27:54 PM 1789 Views
I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 2030 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 1085 Views
Re: And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. - 06/08/2010 06:28:40 PM 1895 Views
I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 2150 Views
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Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 1072 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1846 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1851 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 1011 Views
Things Are Not What They Seem - 01/08/2010 11:15:23 PM 1838 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 1091 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1837 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 2012 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1879 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1726 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1844 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1929 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1973 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1892 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1815 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1907 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 2035 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1997 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1901 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1812 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 996 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 986 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1830 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 2050 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1856 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1925 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 2035 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1864 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1974 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1905 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 891 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1955 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 2003 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1858 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 1028 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1987 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1891 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1842 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1832 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 980 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 1073 Views

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