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The former can come from being inundated with the latter. Myrdhyn Send a noteboard - 18/08/2010 07:36:52 PM
but I think you misunderstood my original point (or chose to replace it with one that suited you better, so that you could poke Eurosocialism).

I was talking about the action without hope of success, not about not attempting it because where you are at is fine enough.
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How can you know you have no hope of success until you've tried with every ounce (milliliter? hehe) of effort you've got. You can't, and the drive to give up comes from being coddled far too much.
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The former can come from being inundated with the latter. - 18/08/2010 07:36:52 PM 955 Views
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"Worked" being a relative term, of course. *NM* - 19/08/2010 04:20:23 AM 461 Views
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