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Far more people watched B&B than have read ASoIaF. Werthead Send a noteboard - 23/09/2010 07:01:22 PM
Have you read his latest WILDCARDS book? I haven't read any of them. No one else has, either.


If no-one is reading them why are Tor asking for more books and reprinting the old ones? I'm not hugely bothered about WILD CARDS either, but a few hundred thousand people out there clearly are.

George R.R. Martin has money and can keep stuffing his gut and feeding his cats (I'm sure there are several) because of A Song of Ice and Fire. Period.


Partially, sure. Since HBO bought the TV rights in 2007, even in the majority. But, as has been said before, the money authors make from their books alone is peanuts compared to what TV screenwriters and producers make, or what authors who have sold TV and movie rights of their works make.

Did you watch that awful soap opera Beauty and the Beast? I didn't. Based on its cancellation, most people didn't.


About 17 million people watched BatB during its second season in 1988, monstrously eclipsing contemporary shows like say STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION. Season 1 had even higher ratings, around 20 million (or about ten times the sales of any individual ASoIaF novel, and more than twice the sales of the entire series). Most TV execs would murder for numbers like that today (that's LOST levels of success).

Incidentally, I strongly suspect this is partially why GRRM is sanguine over the current ADWD-focused criticism. It is like a candle next to the supernova of fury he received (and continues to receive to this very day) over what happened on BatB (him killing off major characters, the series finishing unresolved etc).
NYT Article on Beauty and the Beast
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Because George R.R. Martin does everything but write these days... Tom - 22/09/2010 04:15:04 AM 1841 Views
I don't hate him. But, like you, I'm fed up with him. LiterateDog - 22/09/2010 04:47:31 AM 876 Views
I'm pretty much in the same camp as you and Tom. everynametaken - 22/09/2010 06:17:53 AM 967 Views
I'm beginning to agree. Ghavrel - 22/09/2010 09:55:07 AM 854 Views
I do like Neil Gaiman's writing, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/09/2010 10:01:24 AM 375 Views
I can forgive you. *NM* Tom - 22/09/2010 02:08:46 PM 411 Views
Not only is he a writer, but he has really only one successful series. Tom - 23/09/2010 03:40:30 AM 792 Views
Far more people watched B&B than have read ASoIaF. Werthead - 23/09/2010 07:01:22 PM 951 Views
good point *NM* aragornital - 22/09/2010 08:07:16 AM 469 Views
Wait a minute... Larry - 22/09/2010 11:33:37 PM 917 Views
I said I'm "growing" to hate him. I'm not ready to pay for his death yet. Tom - 23/09/2010 03:37:53 AM 805 Views
bahahahahahahahahaha temeraire - 22/09/2010 06:10:26 AM 891 Views
I was in an odd mood last night Tom - 23/09/2010 03:36:46 AM 735 Views
Hahaha Darth_Katie - 22/09/2010 01:24:17 PM 871 Views
I'm not sure I'd be dictating chapters from my deathbed Tom - 23/09/2010 03:35:43 AM 755 Views
I was thinking the same things a couple days ago Fox and Ravens - 22/09/2010 02:22:49 PM 1009 Views
I'm not sure Brandon Sanderson could finish the series, either. Tom - 23/09/2010 03:33:52 AM 791 Views
Sadly, I would be satisfied with this. StormCrow - 23/09/2010 03:01:04 PM 890 Views
If I was an author I wouldn't defend him. Tigr - 22/09/2010 03:35:17 PM 868 Views
I agree but emphatically endorse use of the subjunctive "were". Tom - 23/09/2010 03:31:25 AM 747 Views
If I were to be grammatically correct, the world would stop spinning. *NM* Tigr - 23/09/2010 02:27:00 PM 405 Views
Martin is not the only one... ajah - 02/10/2010 08:16:51 AM 833 Views
If he had only ever written stand-alone books... Gher - 22/09/2010 03:42:48 PM 847 Views
There is more than an expectation. Tom - 23/09/2010 03:30:32 AM 847 Views
I stopped caring so long ago I don't even remember much of what it's about. *NM* Macharius - 22/09/2010 04:21:52 PM 366 Views
Wolves and incest and a big wall of ice with barrow-wights on the other side. *NM* Tom - 23/09/2010 03:36:19 AM 371 Views
You know whenever the new book is ever released, it'll sell even more copies due to the wait, right? Larry - 22/09/2010 11:06:37 PM 888 Views
Bisson was already working on it when Miller died, IIRC Werthead - 22/09/2010 11:17:50 PM 866 Views
Close enough Larry - 22/09/2010 11:26:51 PM 911 Views
There's a huge difference between Song of Ice and Fire and Miller's Leibowitz. Tom - 23/09/2010 03:28:31 AM 792 Views
I know - I was just thinking about wait times for stories Larry - 23/09/2010 03:40:09 AM 739 Views
Not neccessarily. There are plenty of series that I started but didn't finish because I lost Tashmere - 24/09/2010 12:58:10 AM 743 Views
Don't mistake yourself for the average consumer Larry - 24/09/2010 04:03:57 AM 983 Views
Re: Don't mistake yourself for the average consumer Werthead - 24/09/2010 08:55:29 AM 895 Views
which is why I always rant - why review a book on your blog, but not Amazon? Aeryn - 25/09/2010 03:36:45 PM 810 Views
That's why I always do. Werthead - 25/09/2010 04:51:49 PM 735 Views
Re: Mostly, because I don't buy from Amazon. *NM* Danae al'Thor - 26/09/2010 12:09:03 AM 392 Views
I don't plan to read it. nossy - 26/09/2010 03:28:02 PM 989 Views
As I said in a previous response... Larry - 26/09/2010 11:15:13 PM 771 Views
I only recently started reading the books fistofpainx - 23/09/2010 04:17:14 AM 804 Views
Re: I only recently started reading the books Fox and Ravens - 23/09/2010 03:36:17 PM 774 Views
Where's your evidence that Neil Gaiman thinks he's God? Tim - 23/09/2010 01:31:03 PM 824 Views
Re: Nothing wrong with him if does have a high opinion of himself. *NM* Danae al'Thor - 26/09/2010 12:11:06 AM 339 Views
I'm always amused by these threads. Variant - 24/09/2010 08:22:54 AM 811 Views
Re: I'm always amused by these threads. Fox and Ravens - 24/09/2010 02:42:27 PM 904 Views
Truly, there's really no reason that you can't be both angry at him and planning to buy the book. Kotagg - 25/09/2010 12:46:03 AM 785 Views
I never said it was hypocritical, just saying it's amusing. *NM* Variant - 25/09/2010 11:06:42 AM 378 Views
So y'all just bitching? Variant - 25/09/2010 10:31:23 AM 829 Views
Re: I'm always amused by these threads. Werthead - 25/09/2010 05:04:56 PM 748 Views
Re: This is funny beyond the telling. Danae al'Thor - 26/09/2010 12:07:40 AM 794 Views
Re: Because George R.R. Martin does everything but write these days... Mossman - 02/10/2010 02:57:29 AM 731 Views
Here's the thing... ajah - 02/10/2010 08:23:14 AM 1123 Views
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