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Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla Send a noteboard - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM
Legolas' post about Emma and Rebekah's challenge got me thinking that there are a lot of "classics" floating around out there that certain people (myself included) may never have given a chance. This will be true, regardless of what you consider a "classic" to be. I leaned a little too heavily on a man named Cliff during school to avoid getting too far out of my comfort zone. Also, making something "required" reading usually took away some of it's appeal for me.

This may be more of a survey than a discussion, but I think it would be interesting none the less, especially with the amount of literature buffs around this board. Anyway, here we go...

How do you define a classic work or author?


It depends. One definition sticks to a certain period of Greek literature. And then there is the fudgy "canon". But I suppose the main test is whether something is still considered good after a hundred years or so. Though I think people are calling "classics" books from the 50s. It is very fuzzy.

What are your favorite classic works?


I love Aristophanes and Herodotos. And I really like Hamlet and Macbeth. And I'll read Austen any chance I get. Same with Woolf, really. Or Dumas. Or Wodehouse. I am writing my PhD on Dickens, so I suppose I'll have to mention him. And Thackeray and Stevenson. I quite like some of Zola. There is too much to mention. I real a lot of "canon" literature.

Edit: the more I think about this, the more books I feel that I should enter. There are so many good ones. Starting with Homer (Gilgamesh was alright, but not something I feel an immediate urge to re-read), on to Sapho, Aeschylos, Sohpocles, Plato, Xenophon, then Catullus, Vergil, Ovid. The mystery plays of the medieval period are worth your time. Geoffrey of Monmouth, Dante, Boccaccio, Chaucer, Cervantes' Don Quixote, Shakespeare, and Aphra Behn, Michel de Montaigne, Moliére, Racine, Fielding, Swift, Laurence Sterne, Goethe's Elective Affinities (not the tragic romantic stuff), Pope, Blake, Baudelaire, Lewis Carroll, Jules Verne, Nietzche (oh, my god, Nietzsche... or are we only talking about fiction here?), Ibsen and Strindberg, Henry James, Stevenson, Oscar Wilde, Thomas Mann, Gaston Leroux, Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky (within reason), Gogol, Bulgakov, Kafka, Joyce, Woolf, Proust, Walter Benjamin, Huxley, Orwell, Beckett, ... and with that I think we have reached the end of what I am comfortable calling a "classic". Although I will emphasise that I am associating wildly, and it is quite possible that I have forgotten someone I really like.

If you had to suggest just one, which would it be and why? (please not, "because it's good" )


Hmm. If you are not used to reading non-contemporary books, I think Dumas or Wodehouse, possibly Austen (but I think possibly that works better if you are a girl) is a good place to start, mainly because the difference will not be so great. Stevenson is always great. Or, you know, Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories. Or Poe. Those are a good place to start because they are not terribly challenging.

The same goes for Tolstoy. I am always amused by how War and Peace is touted like this difficult, intellectual novel when it is really a soap opera. It is interesting, and it is fun to read (if you get through the periods of thoughts on history, but those are short).

What have you staunchly refused to read that might be considered a classic?


Nothing, really. I don't staunchly refuse to read anything that I think might be good. I am not a great fan of Milton. And I think Robinson Crusoe is one of the more boring books in the history of the canon, but I read them before I made up my mind.

Why don't you want to read it?


n/a

I considered myself relatively well read, until I started hanging out around here at least. I will answer the questions in the next post to get it started, despite what it might reveal about my literary experience (or lack thereof). Thanks!
*MySmiley*
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This message last edited by Camilla on 30/09/2010 at 09:30:50 PM
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It's cool. - 06/10/2010 04:42:13 PM 1405 Views
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Yes. - 01/10/2010 09:51:32 PM 1169 Views
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I really need to read Kundera. I've heard nothing but praise for Unbearable Lightness. *NM* - 30/09/2010 08:46:18 PM 691 Views
I could post you over a copy to borrow. - 30/09/2010 08:58:08 PM 1104 Views
It is good. *NM* - 30/09/2010 09:34:47 PM 544 Views
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I study them, apparently. - 30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM 1377 Views
I wish I could do that. - 30/09/2010 09:49:57 PM 1303 Views
Less fun than you'd think. - 30/09/2010 10:52:10 PM 1139 Views
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But but but Milton is beautiful - 30/09/2010 10:46:06 PM 1221 Views
Sometimes. - 30/09/2010 10:47:28 PM 1288 Views
Maybe I was unclear. - 30/09/2010 10:55:22 PM 1257 Views
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I'm glad you approve on the whole. - 30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM 1335 Views
I generally do. - 30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM 1249 Views
Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1420 Views
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Oh, and link to the Flecker poem: - 30/09/2010 11:42:30 PM 1154 Views
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Ah Cliff, I bow to thee - 30/09/2010 11:30:41 PM 1388 Views
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I figured as much. - 01/10/2010 03:08:26 AM 1141 Views
I expected you to have quite a few as well. - 01/10/2010 03:25:06 AM 1236 Views
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