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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM
I don't really mean either. The ideas themselves may not be difficult to grasp OR challenge predominant views, but their presentation in a literary work may be done in such a way that it's not immediately apparent, or that requires reading a hundred pages of seemingly meaningless exposition before their impact can be felt.

I understand you now. Thanks for the clarification. It's more a matter of execution and presentation.

I struggled with Crime and Punishment, honestly. Ultimately good and worth it, but it was tough for me to get through. I've been stalling on reading more, mainly The Brothers Karamazov.

Note that I did NOT put Crime and Punishment on my list of favorites. I think it's perhaps Dostoevsky's least successful "major" work. It's slower, less developed and a bit predictable.


I actually noted that, the first time I tried to reply to you, and it didn't post for some reason. Either way, I think I'll start with The Brothers Karamazov and see if I want to try the others.


Tender is the Night is his last finished novel and very autobiographical. As a result, it's quite sad.


I'll have to add this one to the list too then. I really enjoyed his writing style and I like the added parrallel to his personal life, even if it's a sad one.
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The Classics - general discussion / survey StormCrow - 30/09/2010 03:52:53 PM 1718 Views
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Get a copy with annotations! Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:56:12 PM 1164 Views
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Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:23:51 PM 1344 Views
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Re: Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:07:20 PM 1284 Views
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Well, have you seen any of the Austen TV/movie adaptations, then? Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:25:58 PM 1270 Views
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They are much, much worse than powder soup. Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:07 PM 1168 Views
Well, since they're made of paper... StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:09:41 PM 1236 Views
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Cliff's notes Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 08:05:56 PM 1353 Views
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It's cool. StormCrow - 06/10/2010 04:42:13 PM 1406 Views
A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 05:33:35 PM 1286 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 06:46:02 PM 1290 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 10:57:23 PM 1353 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:39:16 PM 1145 Views
Camilla, that's just because you're an atheist. Tom - 01/10/2010 09:37:34 PM 1177 Views
Yes. Camilla - 01/10/2010 09:51:32 PM 1171 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM 1365 Views
I really need to read Kundera. I've heard nothing but praise for Unbearable Lightness. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:46:18 PM 692 Views
I could post you over a copy to borrow. Rebekah - 30/09/2010 08:58:08 PM 1104 Views
That is very kind, but I have far too much to do to read non-school books, unfortunately. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:53:23 PM 1171 Views
It is good. *NM* Camilla - 30/09/2010 09:34:47 PM 546 Views
Haven't read any other Kundera, but yes, that one is very enjoyable. *NM* Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:30 PM 681 Views
I found his other books to be pale copies of The Unbearable Lightness of Being. *NM* Tom - 30/09/2010 10:51:55 PM 726 Views
totally problematic classics temeraire - 30/09/2010 08:07:22 PM 1303 Views
Re: totally problematic classics StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:26:46 PM 1190 Views
I study them, apparently. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM 1378 Views
I wish I could do that. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:49:57 PM 1303 Views
Less fun than you'd think. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:52:10 PM 1140 Views
More admiration of your discipline than assuming you were having fun with it. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:31:06 AM 1286 Views
Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM 1365 Views
I knew you would have a rather lengthy list. I was worried until the edit came through. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:26:34 AM 1364 Views
Good survey. Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:23:18 PM 1344 Views
Agreed. edited Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:37:48 PM 1325 Views
But but but Milton is beautiful Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:46:06 PM 1221 Views
Sometimes. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:47:28 PM 1289 Views
Maybe I was unclear. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:55:22 PM 1258 Views
Re: Maybe I was unclear. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:57:41 PM 1135 Views
I'm glad you approve on the whole. Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM 1336 Views
I generally do. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM 1250 Views
Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1422 Views
Re: Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM 1311 Views
Dickens StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:42:42 PM 1244 Views
Re: I generally do. BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:54:11 PM 1315 Views
Oh, and link to the Flecker poem: Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:42:30 PM 1156 Views
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My classics nossy - 30/09/2010 10:54:56 PM 1210 Views
Re: My classics StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:01:24 AM 1308 Views
Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:30:41 PM 1389 Views
Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:18:58 AM 1243 Views
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Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:05:35 PM 1277 Views
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Ha, we weren't that far off after all. StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:11:39 PM 1182 Views
I will not list 300+ books here, I promise Larry - 01/10/2010 12:36:17 AM 1391 Views
O'Connor is wonderful. But I am not sure many can appreciate her. Ghavrel - 01/10/2010 02:50:54 AM 1075 Views
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I figured as much. Ghavrel - 01/10/2010 03:08:26 AM 1142 Views
I expected you to have quite a few as well. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:25:06 AM 1236 Views
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Glad to bring back the school days. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 01:49:48 PM 1310 Views
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the bf and I are going to do a "Paradise Lost" book club... ajah - 02/10/2010 08:29:38 AM 1412 Views
Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:40:48 AM 1285 Views
Re: Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. ajah - 02/10/2010 09:42:37 PM 1275 Views
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