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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM
I don't really mean either. The ideas themselves may not be difficult to grasp OR challenge predominant views, but their presentation in a literary work may be done in such a way that it's not immediately apparent, or that requires reading a hundred pages of seemingly meaningless exposition before their impact can be felt.

I understand you now. Thanks for the clarification. It's more a matter of execution and presentation.

I struggled with Crime and Punishment, honestly. Ultimately good and worth it, but it was tough for me to get through. I've been stalling on reading more, mainly The Brothers Karamazov.

Note that I did NOT put Crime and Punishment on my list of favorites. I think it's perhaps Dostoevsky's least successful "major" work. It's slower, less developed and a bit predictable.


I actually noted that, the first time I tried to reply to you, and it didn't post for some reason. Either way, I think I'll start with The Brothers Karamazov and see if I want to try the others.


Tender is the Night is his last finished novel and very autobiographical. As a result, it's quite sad.


I'll have to add this one to the list too then. I really enjoyed his writing style and I like the added parrallel to his personal life, even if it's a sad one.
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The Classics - general discussion / survey StormCrow - 30/09/2010 03:52:53 PM 1772 Views
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Get a copy with annotations! Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:56:12 PM 1212 Views
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Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:23:51 PM 1392 Views
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Re: Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:07:20 PM 1334 Views
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Well, have you seen any of the Austen TV/movie adaptations, then? Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:25:58 PM 1311 Views
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They are much, much worse than powder soup. Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:07 PM 1205 Views
Well, since they're made of paper... StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:09:41 PM 1287 Views
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Cliff's notes Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 08:05:56 PM 1405 Views
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It's cool. StormCrow - 06/10/2010 04:42:13 PM 1462 Views
A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 05:33:35 PM 1335 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 06:46:02 PM 1351 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 10:57:23 PM 1428 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:39:16 PM 1196 Views
Camilla, that's just because you're an atheist. Tom - 01/10/2010 09:37:34 PM 1226 Views
Yes. Camilla - 01/10/2010 09:51:32 PM 1217 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM 1416 Views
I really need to read Kundera. I've heard nothing but praise for Unbearable Lightness. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:46:18 PM 730 Views
I could post you over a copy to borrow. Rebekah - 30/09/2010 08:58:08 PM 1153 Views
That is very kind, but I have far too much to do to read non-school books, unfortunately. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:53:23 PM 1218 Views
It is good. *NM* Camilla - 30/09/2010 09:34:47 PM 562 Views
Haven't read any other Kundera, but yes, that one is very enjoyable. *NM* Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:30 PM 706 Views
I found his other books to be pale copies of The Unbearable Lightness of Being. *NM* Tom - 30/09/2010 10:51:55 PM 748 Views
totally problematic classics temeraire - 30/09/2010 08:07:22 PM 1347 Views
Re: totally problematic classics StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:26:46 PM 1233 Views
I study them, apparently. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM 1420 Views
I wish I could do that. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:49:57 PM 1350 Views
Less fun than you'd think. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:52:10 PM 1187 Views
More admiration of your discipline than assuming you were having fun with it. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:31:06 AM 1328 Views
Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM 1439 Views
I knew you would have a rather lengthy list. I was worried until the edit came through. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:26:34 AM 1428 Views
Good survey. Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:23:18 PM 1428 Views
Agreed. edited Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:37:48 PM 1367 Views
But but but Milton is beautiful Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:46:06 PM 1272 Views
Sometimes. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:47:28 PM 1372 Views
Maybe I was unclear. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:55:22 PM 1306 Views
Re: Maybe I was unclear. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:57:41 PM 1177 Views
I'm glad you approve on the whole. Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM 1391 Views
I generally do. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM 1308 Views
Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1468 Views
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Dickens StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:42:42 PM 1293 Views
Re: I generally do. BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:54:11 PM 1366 Views
Oh, and link to the Flecker poem: Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:42:30 PM 1197 Views
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My classics nossy - 30/09/2010 10:54:56 PM 1277 Views
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Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:30:41 PM 1443 Views
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Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 01/10/2010 05:20:10 AM 1359 Views
Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:05:35 PM 1337 Views
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Ha, we weren't that far off after all. StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:11:39 PM 1221 Views
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I figured as much. Ghavrel - 01/10/2010 03:08:26 AM 1186 Views
I expected you to have quite a few as well. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:25:06 AM 1281 Views
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Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:40:48 AM 1352 Views
Re: Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. ajah - 02/10/2010 09:42:37 PM 1313 Views
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