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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM
I don't really mean either. The ideas themselves may not be difficult to grasp OR challenge predominant views, but their presentation in a literary work may be done in such a way that it's not immediately apparent, or that requires reading a hundred pages of seemingly meaningless exposition before their impact can be felt.

I understand you now. Thanks for the clarification. It's more a matter of execution and presentation.

I struggled with Crime and Punishment, honestly. Ultimately good and worth it, but it was tough for me to get through. I've been stalling on reading more, mainly The Brothers Karamazov.

Note that I did NOT put Crime and Punishment on my list of favorites. I think it's perhaps Dostoevsky's least successful "major" work. It's slower, less developed and a bit predictable.


I actually noted that, the first time I tried to reply to you, and it didn't post for some reason. Either way, I think I'll start with The Brothers Karamazov and see if I want to try the others.


Tender is the Night is his last finished novel and very autobiographical. As a result, it's quite sad.


I'll have to add this one to the list too then. I really enjoyed his writing style and I like the added parrallel to his personal life, even if it's a sad one.
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The Classics - general discussion / survey StormCrow - 30/09/2010 03:52:53 PM 1479 Views
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Get a copy with annotations! Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:56:12 PM 954 Views
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Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:23:51 PM 1112 Views
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Well, have you seen any of the Austen TV/movie adaptations, then? Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:25:58 PM 1053 Views
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They are much, much worse than powder soup. Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:07 PM 952 Views
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It's cool. StormCrow - 06/10/2010 04:42:13 PM 1167 Views
A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 05:33:35 PM 1039 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 06:46:02 PM 1060 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 10:57:23 PM 1023 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:39:16 PM 886 Views
Camilla, that's just because you're an atheist. Tom - 01/10/2010 09:37:34 PM 954 Views
Yes. Camilla - 01/10/2010 09:51:32 PM 939 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM 1120 Views
I really need to read Kundera. I've heard nothing but praise for Unbearable Lightness. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:46:18 PM 571 Views
I could post you over a copy to borrow. Rebekah - 30/09/2010 08:58:08 PM 886 Views
That is very kind, but I have far too much to do to read non-school books, unfortunately. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:53:23 PM 964 Views
It is good. *NM* Camilla - 30/09/2010 09:34:47 PM 432 Views
Haven't read any other Kundera, but yes, that one is very enjoyable. *NM* Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:30 PM 573 Views
I found his other books to be pale copies of The Unbearable Lightness of Being. *NM* Tom - 30/09/2010 10:51:55 PM 611 Views
totally problematic classics temeraire - 30/09/2010 08:07:22 PM 1081 Views
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I study them, apparently. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM 1135 Views
I wish I could do that. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:49:57 PM 1043 Views
Less fun than you'd think. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:52:10 PM 911 Views
More admiration of your discipline than assuming you were having fun with it. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:31:06 AM 1084 Views
Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM 1092 Views
I knew you would have a rather lengthy list. I was worried until the edit came through. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:26:34 AM 1118 Views
Good survey. Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:23:18 PM 1110 Views
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Sometimes. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:47:28 PM 1031 Views
Maybe I was unclear. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:55:22 PM 1043 Views
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I'm glad you approve on the whole. Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM 1048 Views
I generally do. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM 1031 Views
Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1212 Views
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Dickens StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:42:42 PM 1013 Views
Re: I generally do. BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:54:11 PM 1092 Views
Oh, and link to the Flecker poem: Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:42:30 PM 939 Views
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Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:30:41 PM 1137 Views
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Ha, we weren't that far off after all. StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:11:39 PM 969 Views
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