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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM
I was trying to think of a way to say the same thing, the not malevolently racist bit, but couldn't come up with anything. It's like a general attitude he has but he doesn't hold to it when someone is gifted like Lily or Dirk Creswell. I find it odd.

I think it's not really odd, quite realistic in fact. Just think of all the racists who make exceptions for their personal friends.

Dumbledore refers to his "considerable talents" and I think Slughorn is aware that he may be useful to Voldemort. Do you think this is arrogance on Slughorn's part or an astute observation and reaction?

I think he certainly might be useful to Voldemort, but still it's interesting that he'd think he would be among Voldemort's first priorities, and that Voldemort would risk blowing his cover (well, to the extent he still has a cover). What I also want to know is what he did during the previous war - evidently he never became a DE, but did he spend all that time running away so they could never try to recruit him, too?

That's a good question. Was Slughorn still teaching at Hogwarts during the last war? He taught Lily, so probably, which makes me think that Slughorn was safe at the school during the last war. Pure speculation though.

See, now I adore Ginny, but I think she's really unfair. I think Fleur is trying in the beginning and then as she gets the attitude she stops trying as hard (the Christmas radio broadcast comes to mind, hardly her most endearing chapter). I never understood why everyone was so shocked that she still wants to marry Bill by the end, if anything I'd think she'd want to call it off before to get away from a family that doesn't want her.

*I* think Ginny is unfair, too, but I'm not sure if Rowling does, which was my point about not being sure what to infer. And yes, agreed - I'm not sure if any reader really would've expected Fleur to go "no, I can't marry him anymore". She's shown a long time ago that she has her priorities straight.

Ahhh, gotcha.

I felt badly for her briefly after the Lucius remark, until she hits back just as hard about Harry being reunited with Sirius.

Heh, yes.

I didn't phrase that as well as I would have liked...I'll blame a lack of coffee. ;) I meant how Mrs. Weasley has always wanted them to be more like Percy and being disappointed with their behavior. It provides a nice counterpoint to this to see them be successful and later showing their mother how much they appreciate her. I think they are great sons.

Oh, yeah, I was glad to see her come around, too.

That's exactly it! He's right in the next book too about something big...so that's the second time a day, right? ;)

Indeed. I suppose it makes sense that he gets to be right more often later on in the books, older and wiser and all... but every once in a while he still has to get things totally and utterly wrong to not make the reader wonder who this guy is and what he's done with Harry Potter.

That made me laugh, because you're so right. :D
He's starting to come around in this book, getting more and more stuff right and I think he keeps it pretty clean in the next book. Not perfect, but like you said we need to recognize Harry!
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3051 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1722 Views
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Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1702 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1765 Views
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*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1640 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1040 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 974 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1800 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2002 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 1992 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1942 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1934 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2033 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1736 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 894 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1860 Views
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Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1819 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1042 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 1942 Views
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On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 1814 Views
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Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1774 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1694 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1818 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1857 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 886 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1647 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1635 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1030 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 992 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1897 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1649 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1678 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1666 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1690 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1838 Views
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Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1717 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1852 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1759 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1840 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1832 Views
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Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1714 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 979 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1777 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1688 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1705 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 997 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1652 Views
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Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1037 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1001 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1932 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1789 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1620 Views
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Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1782 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1676 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1717 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1791 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1828 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1770 Views
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Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1803 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 821 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1636 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1765 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1620 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1845 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1731 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1694 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1745 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1741 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1700 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1705 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1984 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1858 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 867 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1745 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 994 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 978 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1734 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1702 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1731 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1887 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1862 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 799 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1756 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1913 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1766 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1790 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 827 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1900 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1835 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1695 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1881 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1742 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1794 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1644 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 969 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1055 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1881 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1709 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1724 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1955 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1811 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1767 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1465 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1719 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1719 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1651 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1803 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 860 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1739 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1806 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 755 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1081 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1620 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1860 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1945 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 860 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1936 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 881 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2023 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1005 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1769 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1796 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1829 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 901 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1740 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1806 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1827 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1647 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1805 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1782 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 882 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1633 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1482 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1682 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 902 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1724 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1974 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1709 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1012 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 840 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 973 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1650 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1720 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1806 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1804 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1767 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1917 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2058 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 851 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1768 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2008 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1685 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1813 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1788 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2029 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2260 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1793 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1892 Views

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