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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour Legolas Send a noteboard - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM
Mr Weasley: I like the glimpse we get of him in Ron's reminiscence from when he was a kid and the twins tried to get him to make the unbreakable vow. We know he loves his children, but I love it when the Weasleys are startled into a violent reaction for some reason (that is probably why I like Mrs Weasley's comment to Bellatrix, which we'll discuss in book 7 unless I miss my guess).

Yeah, it's one of the advantages of being generally even-tempered and calm - when he does lose it, he makes quite the impression. It does highlight the additional risks to children that magical families face, though... on the other hand, I suppose for most of them things like traffic accidents aren't really a factor, so maybe it evens out.
Lupin: the voice of reason. He is quite right, of course. Trusting Snape is down to trusting Dumbledore's judgement.

Indeed. I like how he has a more mixed view of Snape now, too.
It is interesting to read about his experience with other werewolves. WE are obviously inclined to take Harry's view and think of it as a minor problem that does not affect the person Lupin himself (also, "many people were under the impression that I owned a badly behaved rabbit" had me giggling), but to a great extent his problem is the same as that of the giants. Vodlemort pretends to give werewolves freer reign, while his ideology all the while is repressive.

It's how it always goes, really... the revolutionaries use dangerous and violent people until they are in power, then liquidate them when they don't need them anymore.

And you were right about the Wolfsbane potion, seems it does indeed help people control lycanthropy (funny how there's an actual Greek word for "being a werewolf"...).
Lupin's reaction when mentioning Greyback is subtle, but speaks volumes.

Yeah. And we'll see later on in the book that it's a rather understandable reaction. Greyback really is one of the scariest Death Eaters in the whole series.
Fleur: she is surprisingly socially clueless. She really seems to have no social antennas (antennae?). Perhaps it comes with being so beautiful: she has never had to develop the skills?

She's doing it on purpose, surely. That can't just be her being clueless. Either way it's really awkward for Bill, though. I remember someone - Seriana? - saying in the Phlegm chapter that Fleur was quite innocent of all the charges against her, but I couldn't agree there, and certainly not here. Ginny and the others fail to see her good sides, certainly, but she does give them reason to dislike her.
Percy: he is just there because Scrimgeor needed an admittance ticket to the house, isn't he? For some reason I remember it as him arriving penitent, but that isn't what happens at all! I am glad the twins and Ginny pelted him with parsnip.

He'll arrive penitent at some later point, not sure where... in book seven, presumably.
Harry: I love his scene with Scrimgeour. It is one of his best. He is what he should be. Doing the right thing, thinking straight.

Yeah. I do like how Scrimgeour is more direct and forceful than Fudge, though - you can see how this is a man of action with not much talent for politics, more than a career politician like Fudge. And Harry is certainly shining here, confident and mature.
And the scene in Dumbledore's office later on, when he tells him what he said, is lovely. I am so glad that happened before the end of the book.

Dumbledore's self-deprecating reaction ("How very rude of him";) is great there, too.
Scrimgeour: ack. Why is the wizarding world not better at choosing competent leaders? Also, it really is quite shocking that a woman who abused children last year (and is clearly insane) is still working for the ministry.

I'm wondering if they really know how bad things got, though. Umbridge made clear enough in the previous book that Fudge didn't know about some of the darker things she did, and I'm not sure that they'd really have found out all of that afterwards.

It is surprising to the reader, though. Umbridge's exit last book really did feel like a permanent one, so we're shocked quite as much as Harry when hearing that she's back at the Ministry and apparently in close contact with the Minister. The extent of Scrimgeour's bad judgement about her will become clear in book seven, when she continues to work for the Dark Ministry even after Scrimgeour himself has been killed on the job.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3354 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1991 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 2129 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2216 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1976 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 2037 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 2168 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1901 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1168 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1115 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 2060 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2248 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2258 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2237 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2247 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2306 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1990 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 1042 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 2145 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 2116 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 2066 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1176 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 2172 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2251 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:23:38 PM 2035 Views
Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 2151 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 2104 Views
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Fleur - 23/10/2010 05:11:08 PM 1994 Views
Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 2036 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1973 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 2050 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 2111 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 1056 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1912 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1910 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1209 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1139 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 2167 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1936 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1931 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1946 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1975 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 2122 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 2034 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1979 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 2128 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 2032 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 2107 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 2102 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 2158 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1996 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1134 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 2071 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 2009 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 2027 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1956 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1173 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1921 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 2052 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 2032 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1197 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1148 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2229 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 2037 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1881 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 2064 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 2051 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1940 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1965 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 2069 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 2102 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1978 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 2040 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1963 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 2112 Views
Re: Things - 27/10/2010 12:01:17 AM 2134 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 952 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1952 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 2027 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1895 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 2126 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 2006 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1990 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 2004 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 2015 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1996 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 2003 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2283 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 2115 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 1007 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 2012 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1138 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1151 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 2045 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1977 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 2018 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 2146 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 2133 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 916 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 2034 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 2180 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 2044 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 2058 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 975 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 2165 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 2084 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1985 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 2187 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 2022 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 2104 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1898 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1132 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1224 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 2165 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1984 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 2001 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2223 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 2134 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 2067 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1729 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1983 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 2005 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1956 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 2090 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 1017 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1997 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 2066 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 889 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1244 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1889 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 2135 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2211 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 1002 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2232 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 1025 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2264 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1153 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 2085 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 2115 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 2110 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 1024 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 2022 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 2061 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 2124 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1903 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 2062 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 2098 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 1057 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1910 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1752 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1966 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 1034 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1991 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2238 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1961 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1158 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 979 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1097 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1941 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1981 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 2089 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 2071 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 2033 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2197 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2330 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 1006 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 2059 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2271 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1932 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 2087 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 2039 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2278 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2527 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 2083 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 2152 Views

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