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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour Legolas Send a noteboard - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM
Mr Weasley: I like the glimpse we get of him in Ron's reminiscence from when he was a kid and the twins tried to get him to make the unbreakable vow. We know he loves his children, but I love it when the Weasleys are startled into a violent reaction for some reason (that is probably why I like Mrs Weasley's comment to Bellatrix, which we'll discuss in book 7 unless I miss my guess).

Yeah, it's one of the advantages of being generally even-tempered and calm - when he does lose it, he makes quite the impression. It does highlight the additional risks to children that magical families face, though... on the other hand, I suppose for most of them things like traffic accidents aren't really a factor, so maybe it evens out.
Lupin: the voice of reason. He is quite right, of course. Trusting Snape is down to trusting Dumbledore's judgement.

Indeed. I like how he has a more mixed view of Snape now, too.
It is interesting to read about his experience with other werewolves. WE are obviously inclined to take Harry's view and think of it as a minor problem that does not affect the person Lupin himself (also, "many people were under the impression that I owned a badly behaved rabbit" had me giggling), but to a great extent his problem is the same as that of the giants. Vodlemort pretends to give werewolves freer reign, while his ideology all the while is repressive.

It's how it always goes, really... the revolutionaries use dangerous and violent people until they are in power, then liquidate them when they don't need them anymore.

And you were right about the Wolfsbane potion, seems it does indeed help people control lycanthropy (funny how there's an actual Greek word for "being a werewolf"...).
Lupin's reaction when mentioning Greyback is subtle, but speaks volumes.

Yeah. And we'll see later on in the book that it's a rather understandable reaction. Greyback really is one of the scariest Death Eaters in the whole series.
Fleur: she is surprisingly socially clueless. She really seems to have no social antennas (antennae?). Perhaps it comes with being so beautiful: she has never had to develop the skills?

She's doing it on purpose, surely. That can't just be her being clueless. Either way it's really awkward for Bill, though. I remember someone - Seriana? - saying in the Phlegm chapter that Fleur was quite innocent of all the charges against her, but I couldn't agree there, and certainly not here. Ginny and the others fail to see her good sides, certainly, but she does give them reason to dislike her.
Percy: he is just there because Scrimgeor needed an admittance ticket to the house, isn't he? For some reason I remember it as him arriving penitent, but that isn't what happens at all! I am glad the twins and Ginny pelted him with parsnip.

He'll arrive penitent at some later point, not sure where... in book seven, presumably.
Harry: I love his scene with Scrimgeour. It is one of his best. He is what he should be. Doing the right thing, thinking straight.

Yeah. I do like how Scrimgeour is more direct and forceful than Fudge, though - you can see how this is a man of action with not much talent for politics, more than a career politician like Fudge. And Harry is certainly shining here, confident and mature.
And the scene in Dumbledore's office later on, when he tells him what he said, is lovely. I am so glad that happened before the end of the book.

Dumbledore's self-deprecating reaction ("How very rude of him";) is great there, too.
Scrimgeour: ack. Why is the wizarding world not better at choosing competent leaders? Also, it really is quite shocking that a woman who abused children last year (and is clearly insane) is still working for the ministry.

I'm wondering if they really know how bad things got, though. Umbridge made clear enough in the previous book that Fudge didn't know about some of the darker things she did, and I'm not sure that they'd really have found out all of that afterwards.

It is surprising to the reader, though. Umbridge's exit last book really did feel like a permanent one, so we're shocked quite as much as Harry when hearing that she's back at the Ministry and apparently in close contact with the Minister. The extent of Scrimgeour's bad judgement about her will become clear in book seven, when she continues to work for the Dark Ministry even after Scrimgeour himself has been killed on the job.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3261 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1911 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 2058 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2135 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1893 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1964 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 2101 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1825 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1130 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1076 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1980 Views
Re: Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 10:05:30 PM 2318 Views
Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2172 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2180 Views
Re: Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:55:06 PM 2193 Views
(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2148 Views
Re: (minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 05:26:50 PM 1921 Views
*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2145 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:39:44 AM 1983 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2228 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1917 Views
Re: I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 08:33:44 PM 2056 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 999 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 2058 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 2014 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1990 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1134 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 2096 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2175 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:46:08 PM 2056 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:20:28 PM 1931 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM 1692 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 10:20:28 PM 2067 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:23:38 PM 1935 Views
Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 2075 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 2029 Views
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Fleur - 23/10/2010 05:11:08 PM 1873 Views
Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1958 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1872 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1981 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 2039 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 990 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1828 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1826 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1153 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1082 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 2090 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1862 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1861 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1876 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1901 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 2039 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 1961 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1908 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 2041 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1957 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 2036 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 2028 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 2082 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1918 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1084 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1988 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1935 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1947 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1880 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1099 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1845 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 1970 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1932 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1154 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1101 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2150 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1969 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1802 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 1985 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1954 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1861 Views
Re: ~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 09:49:12 PM 1817 Views
Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1882 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 26/10/2010 11:56:59 PM 2020 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 27/10/2010 08:14:42 AM 2002 Views
Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1979 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 2022 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1904 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1962 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1889 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 2029 Views
Re: Things - 27/10/2010 12:01:17 AM 2038 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 909 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1862 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1947 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1820 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 2041 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1930 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1902 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1931 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1927 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1911 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1925 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2188 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 2043 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 966 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1928 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1092 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1079 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1961 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1892 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1940 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 2073 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 2057 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 877 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1956 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 2098 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1966 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1975 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 935 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 2085 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 2010 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1892 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 2118 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1939 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 2025 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1824 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1087 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1153 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 2079 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1904 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1918 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2131 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 2035 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1971 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1638 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1905 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1937 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1881 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1997 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 971 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1924 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1990 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 853 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1206 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1807 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 2052 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2127 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 960 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2161 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 968 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2197 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1111 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 2006 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 2016 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 2035 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 982 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1950 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1983 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 2037 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1816 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1988 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 2014 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 979 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1829 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1660 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1863 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 991 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1917 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2166 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1890 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1112 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 933 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1057 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1858 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1903 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 2000 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1997 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1963 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2120 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2255 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 965 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1981 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2201 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1869 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 2014 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1962 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2199 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2454 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1992 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 2079 Views

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