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Romilda, Snape, Trelawny, Draco, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Harry *spoilers book 7* Camilla Send a noteboard - 05/11/2010 07:34:01 PM
Romilda Vane: she illustrates all that is wrong in the world. Important things are happening all around her, and all she wants to know is whether Harry has a tattoo.

Snape: I am wondering about his sabotage of Harry and Ginny. I feel I am reading too much into it if I once again draw on his memories of seeing James with her, but I thought I'd put it out there. It may not be his primary motivation, but I cannot help think that it may be a factor.

Snape killing Dumbledore is such a good scene. I have already mentioned my weakness for the episodes where Snape does good while appearing to do evil. This one is quite powerful to me. His hatred, of the act, and his anger at what Dumbledore is making him do. It is lovely.

Trelawny: her descent into alcoholism has so far gone unnoted, I think. Still, her predictions are right. I assume Dumbledore has dismissed her because he already knows what they mean, but has no intention of sharing or averting them.

Draco: the whooping. Is it really Draco celebrating? I cannot quite make that fit with what we have been seeing of him lately.

I like him on the roof top as well. He is honest about not wanting to do it, about being forced, but then he is clearly also drawn to the glory of the moment. I like the dithering.

Dumbledore: he cannot tell Harry why he trusts Snape. It isn't doable. It would be such a violation of trust.

I like his reaction to what he sees as Voldemort's crudity and how he reads it in light of his fears of physical injury. Especially after the description of him as doing almost imperceptible magic, it is delightful. It serves to lift him above others, not only marking out his expertise, but through the reaction of disappointment rather than horror at the thought of the blood requirement, his placement so far above Voldemort is really brought home.

Similarly, his steady insistence that he is the one who will run the risks. It does of course make sense in light of what we later learn about how Dumbledore was already dying, but his continual resistance to Harry's hero complex is lovely.

I am a little confused by his great horror. I had thought the visions were of his sister being tortured, but he is talking about "them", not "her". I assume it is about the students being hurt. At any rate, again Dumbledore is cemented as a Good Guy in that his great fears are of hurt to others, not himself. The same is there in his objection to the use of "mudblood" as he is about to die. It is emblematic of the man: no compromise on the objection to what that word represents, regardless of his own position.

The comment on the roof top, ``It is my mercy that matters'' -- is that about what he has made Snape promise?

I also love the ``Jokes? No, no, these are manners.'' Dumbledore through and through.

And then the pleading. Not to be saved, but to be killed before Draco is forced to do it. It is very well written. I love this scene.

Voldemort: I am a little surprised that he would think official qualification is the key to power, when he had already reached the point of considering horcruxes, and had already killed his family, when he was still in school.

He is also very clever to make the test compassion-proof. Not only do you have to be able to force someone else to endure horrible pain, you must then also be able to resist touching the water to bring them solace afterwards.

Harry: his hero complex is challenged. Like all the good guys, he is less able to deal with injury to others, while being less worried about the dangers he himself runs. When Dumbledore mentioned danger and following orders, you know his mind is on having the courage to do the dangerous stuff; and then Dumbledore forces him to stand aside and watch him run the risks and endure the pain. I am not sure he would have been able to do that in the last book.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3207 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1866 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 2013 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2088 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1843 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1921 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 2056 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1789 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1109 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1052 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1940 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2124 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2127 Views
Re: Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:55:06 PM 2150 Views
(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2095 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2101 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2179 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1877 Views
Re: I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 08:33:44 PM 2006 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 975 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 2011 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 1977 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1956 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1112 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 2054 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2123 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM 1645 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:23:38 PM 1888 Views
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On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 1969 Views
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Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1910 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1832 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1937 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1983 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 968 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1785 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1781 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1124 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1061 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 2038 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1817 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1813 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1827 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1846 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1986 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 1923 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1847 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 2000 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1917 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1997 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1989 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 2033 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1868 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1058 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1945 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1854 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1890 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1832 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1072 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1804 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 1925 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1884 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1127 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1076 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2100 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1922 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1765 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 1932 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1907 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1824 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1840 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1933 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1967 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1854 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1912 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1843 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1995 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 887 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1807 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1896 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1770 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1999 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1883 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1857 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1878 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1870 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1866 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1883 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2131 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 2005 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 942 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1883 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1062 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1051 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1920 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1835 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1900 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 2029 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 2017 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 853 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1911 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 2041 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1914 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1932 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 911 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 2044 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1968 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1830 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 2074 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1900 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1956 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1783 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1064 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1127 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 2043 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1859 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1875 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2096 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1980 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1924 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1598 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1863 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1894 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1831 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1954 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 940 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1881 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1939 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 831 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1179 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1760 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 2001 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2080 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 938 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2111 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 947 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2155 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1088 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1930 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1965 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1991 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 962 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1894 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1933 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1992 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1781 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1951 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1961 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 957 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1776 Views
Characters: Harry, Trelawney, Dumbledore, Draco, Snape. And maybe some other people. *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:38:19 PM 935 Views
Romilda, Snape, Trelawny, Draco, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Harry *spoilers book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:34:01 PM 1922 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1616 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1821 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 969 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1876 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2123 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1844 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1086 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 907 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1035 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1796 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1863 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1967 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1952 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1911 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2076 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2213 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 939 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1932 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2158 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1825 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1971 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1921 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2153 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2415 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1945 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 2042 Views

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