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Snape, Lupin, Hermione & Ron, the Order, Mrs Weasley & Fleur, Luna & Neville, Scrimgeour, Ginny *DH* Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/11/2010 02:20:01 PM
Snape: The scene where Harry catches up with him is again delightful. He keeps him from using an unforgivable curse (an not for Snape's own sake alone, I think). And it is only when Harry calls him a coward that he reacts with anger (and, considering what he has just been through, you cannot really blame him at that point). And it is when that is repeated (mixed with the attribution of blame for the death of Lily (Harry refers to his father, but that entails the other), which probably makes it worse) that he really loses it. He intervenes to stop Harry being tortured, and he keeps instructing him all the way. How anyone could actually believe Snape was a bad guy is beyond me.

Lupin: the description of his reaction to the news of Dumbledore's death is surprisingly effective. The exclamation, disbelief, the utter grief. I believe it. It is not fancy, a masterpiece of prose. But it is again that snapshot quality. The description of actions, then Harry's gloss. Lupin is the one who has continually relied on Dumbledore the most, I think. I mean, they all do, but there is something extra there. Dumbledore is the one who takes him in and allows him to form part of wizarding society in a way he would not otherwise have been able to do. It is he who provides him with the opportunity to have friends. He is the one who gives him a job, and it is to avoid giving him trouble that Lupin leaves. There is a very strong connection there, and I cannot help thinking that the idea of Dumbledore is what makes it possible for Lupin to go under cover. And then this.

And, all right, so the scene with Tonks is fine. That does not mean I am convinced.

Hermione and Ron: their reaction at the mention of Draco's disarming Dumbledore. It is both oddly satisfying and sad. They have been downplaying Harry's assurances this whole time, and now he is proven right by Dumbledore's death. Which makes them, not partially responsible, of course -- we know that is not the case, as Dumbledore had control of the situation -- but it must feel horrible.

The Order: their shock at Snape's apparent treachery is of course understandable, and McGonagall's almost fainting made it very apparent. But I am a little surprised that they are all so ready to stop trusting Dumbledore's judgement now he is dead. Yesyes, being killed by Snape does look very bad, but still. Then again, if any of them had as much as uttered any suggestion that there might be another explanation, I suspect Harry would have gone mental.

Mrs Weasley and Fleur: one of Fleur's finest moments, I think. And it re-establishes her character, taking us back to who she was in the fourth book (at least in my mind) -- seeing her through the distorting lens of Harry via the Weasley women has suspended the strong part of her character, but here it is back. "I am beautiful enough for the both of us" is an excellent line.

Luna and Neville: again, they are the only ones who fought with them. It is tied to their being the only ones who are not too busy with other things, but I think there is more to it than being friendless.

Scrimgeour: not his best move talking to Harry at the funeral. He isn't quite a diplomat.

Ginny: I am suprised at how accepting she is. His point is a good one, of course, but still.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 2990 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1699 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 1817 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 1931 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1681 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1741 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 1892 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1617 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1023 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 964 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1782 Views
Re: Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 10:05:30 PM 2068 Views
Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 1982 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 1973 Views
Re: Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:55:06 PM 1965 Views
(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1924 Views
Re: (minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 05:26:50 PM 1700 Views
*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1916 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:39:44 AM 1726 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2017 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1710 Views
Re: I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 08:33:44 PM 1822 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 880 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1832 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 1801 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1795 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1030 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 1880 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 1920 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM 1451 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 10:20:28 PM 1825 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:23:38 PM 1717 Views
Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 1851 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 1788 Views
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Fleur - 23/10/2010 05:11:08 PM 1672 Views
Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1744 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1666 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1794 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1837 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 873 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1624 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1614 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1022 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 981 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1873 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1631 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1655 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1633 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1642 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1814 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 1738 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1689 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1827 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1731 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1816 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1808 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 1879 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1699 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 968 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1760 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1664 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1689 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1677 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 984 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1626 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 1751 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1735 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1023 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 990 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1911 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1765 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1602 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 1789 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1763 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1653 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1700 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 26/10/2010 11:56:59 PM 1790 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 27/10/2010 08:14:42 AM 1802 Views
Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1763 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1801 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1699 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1744 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1663 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1777 Views
Re: Things - 27/10/2010 12:01:17 AM 1815 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 811 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1612 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1746 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1595 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1817 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1711 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1668 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1729 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1722 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1679 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1683 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1965 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1832 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 851 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1726 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 982 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 966 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1702 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1680 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1712 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1865 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1843 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 784 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1734 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1894 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1751 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1766 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 815 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1878 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1811 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1671 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1855 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1717 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1776 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1626 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 956 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1040 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1858 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1688 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1704 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1936 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1788 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1747 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1441 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1698 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1701 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1626 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1787 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 847 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1719 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1782 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 745 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1069 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1595 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1836 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1917 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 851 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1913 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 870 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2000 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 992 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1750 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1778 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1803 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 884 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1715 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1786 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1800 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1628 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1789 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1761 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 869 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1613 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1454 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1660 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 892 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1703 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1946 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1689 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 993 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 831 Views
Snape, Lupin, Hermione & Ron, the Order, Mrs Weasley & Fleur, Luna & Neville, Scrimgeour, Ginny *DH* - 09/11/2010 02:20:01 PM 1646 Views
Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 12:03:16 AM 1862 Views
Re: Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 09:35:04 AM 1798 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 958 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1631 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1691 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1781 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1781 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1745 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1893 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2034 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 840 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1751 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1960 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1658 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1784 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1758 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2004 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2232 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1771 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1870 Views

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