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Re: Spoilers. Camilla Send a noteboard - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM
The description of Snape's pain as similar to that of the dog in the burning house is perhaps a little unsubtle, but it is quite a powerful clue. I am still a little baffled that anyone could think that Snape was bad. Even after the killing of Dumbledore, there are so many indications in the text. Not to mention that "Snape is evil" would be a wholly unsatisfactory ending. If it was going to turn out that way, it could not have been revealed in the second last book. In fact, I think it has been impossible since book 1.

Yeah, I totally agree. Snape being genuinely evil would have been extremely problematic, after the way Harry's erroneous suspicions have been proven wrong in book one. Dumbledore is fallible - the main argument for Snape being truly evil was his quote about being smarter than most men and thus making bigger mistakes, as I recall - but this would've made him a complete fool, and we can't have that. Besides, it would've been way too obvious, what with the scene with Narcissa and Bellatrix, and then later the one with Draco. If he really had been evil, we'd have had more conflicting evidence so that his turning out to be evil would have come as a shock.


Indeed.

The role of Regulus. I know bragging is not really the done thing, but I am still terribly proud of having worked out the identity of R.A.B immediately when I first read the book. Perhaps it wasn't as hard to work out as I thought at the time. It is not a buried clue, after all. It is just a matter of recognising the letters. Still….

It's interesting when you think about it. Regulus is sort of like Malfoy, but even his own brother thinks he's an unrepentant Death Eater. And Regulus makes me think of Karkarov, which makes me wonder why the Order didn't offer him protection in return for information. Or perhaps in return for nothing - Snape already provided the information, after all.


True. Although I don't think Sirius had much contact with his brother -- he broke from his family, after all. But it is, perhaps, a little like Harry figuring out that Dudley is trying to be nice. Except Harry and Dudley are still living in the same house, so his opportunities are greater.

Protect Karkarov, you mean? Or Regulus?
I think they probably would have if Karkarov had gone to Dumbledore and asked for protection. But he chose to run.

Impressive that Regulus figured out, all on his own, what as far as we know nobody else except Dumbledore - much later - figured out.


Very true.

The lull, or the feeling of wrapping things up and clearing the board here … is that just me? Dumbledore's funeral feels a little like a recap. No, that isn't the right word. An overview of the main points. Something is ending here, and the next book is very different. There is a narrowing of the focus.

Yeah, this is definitely a bit of a wrapping up of the series so far - the years in Hogwarts - and a sneak peek ahead into what the next book will be. And some rather dark stuff there: "He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort; he must abandon for ever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one: that the shelter of a parent's arms meant that nothing could hurt him". Particularly that "ought to have lost at the age of one". For the hero of a YA fantasy series, Harry is really quite dark in some ways.


Indeed.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3290 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1932 Views
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Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2157 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1914 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1985 Views
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*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1847 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1142 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1087 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 2002 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2192 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2205 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2176 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2171 Views
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I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1939 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 1011 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 2081 Views
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Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 2009 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1147 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2195 Views
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Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1894 Views
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*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 2060 Views
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Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1853 Views
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Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1096 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 2111 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1881 Views
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More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1894 Views
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Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 2063 Views
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Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1929 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 2062 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1977 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 2056 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 2050 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1096 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 2013 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1957 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1902 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1113 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1863 Views
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Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1117 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2173 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1987 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1828 Views
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~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1885 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1997 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 2049 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1988 Views
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Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 2052 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 920 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1879 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1968 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1841 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 2068 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1952 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1923 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1948 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1951 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1932 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1951 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2212 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 2070 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 979 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1958 Views
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Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1091 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1988 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1921 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1963 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 2090 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 888 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1974 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 2119 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1987 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 946 Views
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Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 2029 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1916 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 2138 Views
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It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 2050 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1846 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1099 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1166 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 2098 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2155 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 2058 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1928 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1956 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1900 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 2016 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 985 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1944 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 2014 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 864 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1219 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1834 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 2078 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2146 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 974 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2177 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 981 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2217 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1122 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 2031 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 2042 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 2057 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 996 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1969 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 2004 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 2067 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1845 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 2006 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 2034 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 995 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1848 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1679 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1884 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 1003 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1934 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2184 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1910 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1127 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 947 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1071 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1884 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1926 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 2020 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 2014 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1980 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2140 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2276 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 981 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 2004 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2219 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1887 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 2037 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1986 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2225 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2475 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 2012 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 2106 Views

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