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That'll work Larry Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 03:41:18 AM
Oddly enough, it was Marxism that helped to contribute massively to the society that we have, at least Marxism as developed in the Leninist model. In place of a cult of consumerism, communism created a cult of production for the sake of production, without any attempt to quantify demand or reasons for the production. This, coupled with dialectical materialism, helped to essentially ensure that there was no alternative to a materialistic (in all senses of the word) society other than backwards traditionalist societies like Afghanistan. The communist erosion of spiritual values went hand in hand with the capitalist erosion of spiritual values. The emphasis on things was there as well, but instead of personal possessions it was pride in how much grain the collective could send to Moscow or Beijing, how much steel a factory could produce, how many pairs of size 12 boots, how many locomotives...

What is needed today is a spiritual movement that emphasizes the individual's responsibility for spiritual growth and self-criticism coupled with a strong sense of a modern morality (essentially, don't do things to people they don't want done to them, respect their right to live differently and let each person handle the spiritual quest in his own way, be and do rather than have, and rise above petty displays of conspicuous consumption and wealth). Simple living, a clean environment, an absence of too much "stuff", and a focus on experiences.


When I was younger, I found a lot of Marxist techniques appealing to me as a historian in training. Now that I'm older, I view Marxist thought as containing a deep irony, in that in trying to combat one perceived set of flawed economic attributes, a counter-model was produced that created a whole new set of problems. Trying to rid human societies of a spiritual component seems to be the institution of a sort of slavery that is much more insidious and complete than any other form that has ever existed before.

Being in thrall to material items just seems so antithetical to human life. And yet when someone gives away their possessions, they are publicly lauded and privately questioned about their sanity and if there are other motives in play. I think even fewer people would be able to do the "camel walking through the eye of a needle" task that the rich man in one of Jesus' stories had to face.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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E-books, piracy, and the commodification of literature - 08/12/2010 02:31:00 AM 1134 Views
So we shouldn't just hook up writers to huge hamster wheels and force them to write and run? - 08/12/2010 04:58:16 AM 1171 Views
I agree with most of what you say, Tom - 09/12/2010 03:16:48 AM 775 Views
Let us say "materialistic culture". - 09/12/2010 03:30:39 AM 780 Views
That'll work - 09/12/2010 03:41:18 AM 689 Views
Speaking of camels through the eyes of needles... - 10/12/2010 03:09:09 AM 657 Views
Re: Speaking of camels through the eyes of needles... - 10/12/2010 11:25:41 AM 735 Views
Discussions of ebook piracy are largely irrelevant until more people use e-readers. - 08/12/2010 10:41:40 AM 779 Views
E-piracy is a symptom, not a cause - 09/12/2010 03:22:05 AM 758 Views
Uhm, or they just want to read and can't afford to spend money on books? - 10/12/2010 05:56:53 PM 651 Views
Re: E-books, piracy, and the commodification of literature - 09/12/2010 03:46:39 AM 741 Views
I'm with you. - 11/12/2010 01:34:54 PM 767 Views
Authors get compensated for libraries. *NM* - 11/12/2010 05:05:30 PM 326 Views
That varies by location. - 11/12/2010 08:07:52 PM 738 Views
I think you are conflating the text and the book. - 11/12/2010 05:04:37 PM 767 Views
That's not my argument at all - 11/12/2010 08:13:36 PM 685 Views
The whole thing gets even weirder with libraries. - 13/12/2010 04:46:15 PM 852 Views

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