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Re: Martin, Goodkind... dacole Send a noteboard - 26/12/2011 01:11:12 AM
...they are all sad rape fantasists in my book. I absolutely believe they are getting off on it and it is one of the reasons I stopped reading any of them after the 1st book. I don't think there is any wider cultural conservative oppression in their writing, that would give them too much credit.

At worst they are just getting their jollies, at best they do not have the emotional intelligence to write on the subject and should have been told to steer clear long ago.


Really? Did you read past the rape scene by the end of that book the lady being raped has become one of the books hero's. Your interpretation is rather quite ridiculous and smacks really of to much sensitivity in my book. (and would say something else but trying to control my emotions here)
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Violence, rape, and agency in the "gritty fantasies" Larry - 17/12/2011 01:36:54 PM 2019 Views
Hm, ok. Dan - 17/12/2011 10:51:21 PM 1435 Views
I think we largely agree Larry - 17/12/2011 11:23:00 PM 1289 Views
Re: Hm, ok. dacole - 26/12/2011 01:08:14 AM 1300 Views
Martin, Goodkind... Wibble - 18/12/2011 01:58:33 PM 1287 Views
More than just those Larry - 18/12/2011 08:15:27 PM 1202 Views
Re: More than just those dacole - 26/12/2011 01:13:21 AM 1146 Views
Re: Martin, Goodkind... dacole - 26/12/2011 01:11:12 AM 1116 Views
On more of a "meta" level, what makes a fantasy story "gritty" in the first place? Macharius - 19/12/2011 02:58:57 PM 1153 Views
There has to be something more, though. Nate - 19/12/2011 03:47:56 PM 1318 Views
Re: There has to be something more, though. Macharius - 19/12/2011 05:29:30 PM 1197 Views
Re: There has to be something more, though. Werthead - 19/12/2011 09:06:14 PM 1173 Views
I agree about Martin - haven't read enough Bakker to judge. Legolas - 19/12/2011 09:56:17 PM 1246 Views
My problem with aSoIaF... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2011 05:16:42 AM 1290 Views
The Rhoynish influence pretty much ends in Dorne. Werthead - 20/12/2011 06:15:54 AM 1214 Views
And that makes sense? fionwe1987 - 20/12/2011 08:54:16 AM 1375 Views
Yes and no. Werthead - 20/12/2011 03:10:54 PM 1367 Views
Re: Yes and no. dacole - 26/12/2011 03:12:01 AM 1156 Views
The power and influence of women in the Middle Ages was limited, but not non-existent. Werthead - 26/12/2011 01:37:40 PM 1130 Views
Re: The power and influence of women in the Middle Ages was limited, but not non-existent. dacole - 29/12/2011 02:47:06 AM 1279 Views
Re: And that makes sense? bugmenot - 18/05/2012 01:42:52 AM 1244 Views
Re: There has to be something more, though. Macharius - 20/12/2011 12:21:39 PM 1116 Views
That's a question for each reader to answer then. Werthead - 20/12/2011 03:20:39 PM 1015 Views
You appear to have not understood my point. Macharius - 20/12/2011 05:59:07 PM 1056 Views
Re: There has to be something more, though. dacole - 26/12/2011 03:14:04 AM 1138 Views
Re: There has to be something more, though. dacole - 26/12/2011 03:01:34 AM 1104 Views
That's my general take as well Larry - 20/12/2011 07:15:51 AM 1096 Views
Re: On more of a "meta" level, what makes a fantasy story "gritty" in the first place? dacole - 26/12/2011 01:15:35 AM 1225 Views
I like violence *NM* Urza - 20/12/2011 07:51:39 PM 549 Views
Re: Violence, rape, and agency in the "gritty fantasies" dacole - 25/12/2011 11:52:41 PM 1304 Views
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