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Not all themes are intended by the author. That doesn't mean they aren't there. lord-of-shadow Send a noteboard - 17/04/2010 06:54:14 PM
This is especially clear when examining books from past eras, where societal themes from the time often make their way into the book without the author's conscious intent. I'm sure it happens in modern writing as well, of course, but it is the contrast between those older works and modern society that allows us to glimpse such things.

I'm arguing this in general principle; it's been too long since I've read Dune for me to argue one way or another in your environmental debate.
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Not all themes are intended by the author. That doesn't mean they aren't there. - 17/04/2010 06:54:14 PM 1436 Views
I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological" - 18/04/2010 12:13:14 AM 1393 Views
Re: I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological" - 18/04/2010 03:34:33 AM 1453 Views
Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white? - 18/04/2010 05:18:07 AM 1240 Views
Re: Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white? - 19/04/2010 06:15:26 PM 1314 Views
That was most of my issue. - 21/04/2010 12:12:56 AM 1159 Views
Re: That was most of my issue. - 21/04/2010 06:33:14 PM 1111 Views
Re: That was most of my issue. - 29/04/2010 11:38:26 PM 1095 Views
Just because something plays a dominate role doesn't make it a theme - 21/04/2010 02:09:42 PM 1257 Views
A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present - 21/04/2010 11:21:38 PM 1204 Views
Re: A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present - 22/04/2010 04:58:01 AM 1150 Views
Good points - 22/04/2010 09:19:45 PM 1216 Views
Re: Good points - 22/04/2010 10:55:21 PM 1151 Views
when you call it human ecology I come much closer to agreeing - 22/04/2010 02:16:58 PM 1175 Views
Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic. - 19/04/2010 07:52:27 PM 1264 Views
Re: Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic. - 20/04/2010 07:04:40 PM 1136 Views
You're not using "archaic" correctly - 20/04/2010 10:07:31 PM 1111 Views
Your patronizing manner aside, that's not "archaic" at all. - 21/04/2010 01:46:50 AM 1033 Views
doesn't that regulate the point down to interesting trivia? - 21/04/2010 02:36:38 PM 1181 Views
Re: Your patronizing manner aside, that's not "archaic" at all. - 21/04/2010 06:23:24 PM 1267 Views
Funny the things people focus on - 21/04/2010 11:24:59 PM 1142 Views
Re: Funny the things people focus on - 23/04/2010 05:28:54 PM 1139 Views
People who see this as an ecological book are missing the point of the book - 16/04/2010 06:28:40 PM 1679 Views
Books can have more than one theme. Great books almost always do. *NM* - 16/04/2010 07:15:11 PM 576 Views
I agree with that I just never really the ecological theme to Dune - 16/04/2010 10:12:26 PM 1331 Views
Ecology goes more than one way - 17/04/2010 12:12:45 AM 1277 Views
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Everyone get something different from a book - 19/04/2010 07:01:51 PM 1549 Views
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I hope you got to Darwi Odrade - 21/04/2010 03:44:27 PM 1168 Views
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I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom - 17/04/2010 10:22:27 PM 1581 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom - 18/04/2010 04:38:10 AM 1575 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom - 19/04/2010 04:04:43 AM 1425 Views
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I thought all of Dune had begun as a serial in a SF magazine. *NM* - 22/04/2010 01:58:22 PM 515 Views
And Dune Messiah as well was serialized at first, in Galaxy *NM* - 22/04/2010 09:31:54 PM 519 Views
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One of my favorite series! - 21/04/2010 03:30:57 PM 1072 Views
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His style doesn't appeal to me as much, unfortunately - 22/04/2010 09:17:21 PM 1048 Views
You might want to track down his short stories one day... - 23/04/2010 02:06:09 PM 1230 Views
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See...I think I made a mistake in my reading of Dune - 22/04/2010 07:26:28 AM 1189 Views
Depends - 22/04/2010 08:01:39 AM 1077 Views
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read something else - 23/04/2010 07:49:34 PM 1059 Views
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I read the wiki synopses of those two books - 29/04/2010 09:44:07 PM 1083 Views
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